1. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    09 Oct '18 22:20
    @rwingett said
    That there is a standard per hour rate at which sins are expunged is a logical consequence of the New Testament conception of salvation as being an individual phenomenon. If salvation is seen through the Old Testament lens as being a collective phenomenon, then the means for achieving it are very different. The act of performing discrete charitable works within an unjust sys ...[text shortened]... nd wait for it to happen.

    So I hope that clears up why everything you've ever believed is wrong.
    So actually work towards a positive vision, not just condemn man and wait for death??
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    @rwingett said
    Alright, now that I've been summoned back into duty to save the Spirituality Forum from collapsing into ruin, we'll have to pick a topic to bitterly argue about. Any suggestions?
    How can Christians reasonably support capitalism despite the fact that it has greed as its primary motivation?
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    10 Oct '18 00:07
    @thinkofone said
    How can Christians reasonably support capitalism despite the fact that it has greed as its primary motivation?
    They can't. Christianity and capitalism are like oil and water.
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    10 Oct '18 00:12
    @rwingett said
    They can't. Christianity and capitalism are like oil and water.
    What system would be compatible with Christianity? Theocracy + command economy?
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    @fmf said
    What system would be compatible with Christianity? Theocracy + command economy?
    Or communes and collectives that try to withdraw themselves from the surrounding (essentially) capitalist system as much as possible and operate in order to subsist independently?
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    @fmf said
    What system would be compatible with Christianity? Theocracy + command economy?
    ...
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  8. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    10 Oct '18 00:31
    The post that was quoted here has been removed
    I agree. I'd be ready to support any well put view ... just waiting on other views ...
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    On second thoughts: I'm not interested.
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    @rwingett said
    Alright, now that I've been summoned back into duty to save the Spirituality Forum from collapsing into ruin, we'll have to pick a topic to bitterly argue about. Any suggestions?
    If God created everything, and evil exists, then God must have created evil.

    Right?
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    10 Oct '18 01:09
    @fmf said
    Or communes and collectives that try to withdraw themselves from the surrounding (essentially) capitalist system as much as possible and operate in order to subsist independently?
    You have hit the nail on the head, good sir. That is exactly it.
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    @chaney3 said
    If God created everything, and evil exists, then God must have created evil.

    Right?
    Yes.

    But if god is not omniscient, then it could have been an honest mistake on his part.
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    @rwingett said
    You have hit the nail on the head, good sir. That is exactly it.
    What exactly would be proscribed by the 'constitution' of such communities?
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    @fmf said
    What exactly would be proscribed by the 'constitution' of such communities?
    To serve mammon.
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    @rwingett said
    To serve mammon.
    What would be some of the regulatory details that would enforce the rejection of "mammon"? Perhaps a few examples?
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