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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
What makes your preference any more accurate than someone else's preference?
"Accurate"? What do you mean by "accurate"? Are your views on adultery, rape and deception "accurate"?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Take murder for example, if it is not intrinsically wrong, what makes your interpretation of when it is ok any better than Hitlers?
I am comparable to Hitler am I?

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Originally posted by FMF
If you think that lying is "objectively bad", you should perhaps just say so, and maybe explain why. You already know what I believe.
BUMP. You ignored this.

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Originally posted by FMF
Perhaps you might be willing to state whether you agree that there are cases where lying is morally acceptable.
BUMP.

You ignored this too.

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Originally posted by FMF
Is your "personal preference" to rely on ancient Hebrew folklore, the writings of early Christians, and your insistence that a supernatural being has communicated with you?
As a person that subscribes to Moral absolutism, I believe certain actions are intrinsically bad. Which means my personal preference has no bearing on whether something is right or wrong.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
As a person that subscribes to Moral absolutism, I believe certain actions are intrinsically bad. Which means my personal preference has no bearing on whether something is right or wrong.
I see. And this makes your moral code more "accurate" than mine? Including your declaration that being angry with someone is equally as "evil" as exterminating 6,000,000 people in death camps. Coming up with that notion angry someone/the entire Holocaust = the same degree of "evil" was not a moral outlook based on your "personal preference"?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
As a person that subscribes to Moral absolutism, I believe certain actions are intrinsically bad.
So what about when I talked about doing harm to, deceiving and coercing people sometimes being morally justifiable, you disagreed with all that?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I believe certain actions are intrinsically bad.
And you believe that you declaring certain actions to be intrinsically bad ~ and, presumably, certain other actions to not be intrinsically bad ~ is not an outcome of your "personal preference"?

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Originally posted by FMF
"Accurate"? What do you mean by "accurate"? Are your views on adultery, rape and deception "accurate"?
By accurate I mean 'consistent with a standard'. I believe that if God as described in Bible does exist then he has the final say as to what is right and wrong. God himself is absolute and unchanging. Because he is absolute, the morals which he reveals to us are also absolute since they are based on his character. Therefore, it is always a sin to lie and to steal because these actions are against his holy nature.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I believe that if God as described in Bible does exist then he has the final say as to what is right and wrong.
And this is not your "personal preference"?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Therefore, it is always a sin to lie and to steal because these actions are against his holy nature.
You can think of no circumstances whatsoever in which it would be morally justifiable to deceive someone?

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Originally posted by FMF
I am comparable to Hitler am I?
Since you don't believe in universal truth it means that your view on when murder is justifiable is not any more or less correct than Hitlers view. So tell me if universal truth does not exist why would your view on when it is acceptable to commit murder be any more true than Hitler's view?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
God himself is absolute and unchanging. Because he is absolute, the morals which he reveals to us are also absolute since they are based on his character.
So you are saying that the god in your religion and the moral demands he supposedly made of the Hebrews are depicted as being unchanging over the course of the OT and NT?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So tell me if universal truth does not exist why would your view on when it is acceptable to commit murder be any more true than Hitler's view?
Well, wait a minute. What is my view on the morality of murder? And what was Hitler's view on the morality of murder? You seem to want to compare them; what are they? What do you find unacceptable about my view that murder is morally wrong?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Since you don't believe in universal truth...
So you are hereby declaring your belief that your own beliefs constitute "universal truth", is that right? And you are also declaring that this declaration is "objective"?

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