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Originally posted by whodey
God should have come down with a bolt of lightening and kill all the sinners......while enjoying an empty earth.
Newborn babies are guilty of sin? Nothing warped about your view at all.

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Originally posted by chaney3
I have recently viewed photos of Jewish men, women and children killed in concentration camps.

Exterminated and starved.

Where was God?
The question is not an easy one. And IMO no Christian should assume an easy answer.
But throughout the history of the Bible other Jewish national tragedies did not stop God from fulfilling His promises.

But one might consider that out of this tragedy came the reformation of the nation of Israel. It was a catalyst to re-establish that biblical nation. And those who study prophecy sat up and took serious notice.

I do not suggest an easy or trite answer to the Holocaust. And the YouTube play "God on Trial" I think is worth watching. It is about some Jewish prisoners of war who conduct a trial with the Holocaust inmates as prosecutor and defense attorney before a panel of three prisoners who act as judges.

I think it is thoughtful and many sided presentation of this tragic matter. I've watched it through twice.

God on Trial

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Originally posted by apathist
Newborn babies are guilty of sin? Nothing warped about your view at all.
Apathist,

You must be vehemently Pro-Life. Are you?
Don't reach for that cain and hat to dance now.


Originally posted by apathist
If we don't like the holocaust, we are okay with all other atrocities?
He never brought them up. Oh wait, maybe he hasn't seen it on tv to know about them.

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Originally posted by chaney3
I have recently viewed photos of Jewish men, women and children killed in concentration camps.

Exterminated and starved.

Where was God?
You seem to be questioning the concept of the omnibenevolent, omnipotent and omniscient God that is common to so many Christians. And not without reason.


Originally posted by sonship
Apathist,

You must be vehemently Pro-Life. Are you?
Don't reach for that cain and hat to dance now.
Do you think that he is abel to dance?


Originally posted by chaney3
I have recently viewed photos of Jewish men, women and children killed in concentration camps.

Exterminated and starved.

Where was God?
Hitler was demented. Like physically. He had Parkinsons and was pumped up on amphetamines till the end


Originally posted by chaney3
I have recently viewed photos of Jewish men, women and children killed in concentration camps.

Exterminated and starved.

Where was God?
Oh and god was there too ... he hates jews too!

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Originally posted by whodey
God should have come down with a bolt of lightening and kill all the sinners......while enjoying an empty earth.
Sounds quite plausible .... he got bored with the dinosaurs


Originally posted by sonship
Apathist,

You must be vehemently Pro-Life. Are you?
Don't reach for that cain and hat to dance now.
Pro-life? What's the alternative ? Pro-near life? Pro-sludge-life?

Seriously God not only has to fulfil the promises to the various Earth groups but all the groups in the universe. I don't think this backwater part of the universe is largely non-important


Originally posted by apathist
Which is exactly the same as if your god was not involved.
Either one allows for free will or one doesn't.

Dependence on an all powerful government leads to stuff like this. Those in power force their will on society. Sad when people do mot learn from the past.


Originally posted by sonship
Apathist,

You must be vehemently Pro-Life. Are you?
...
No. I like not hurting stuff that doesn't need it though. I say first trimester you need abort okay. Moving forward let's work together to prevent unwanted pregnancies.

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Originally posted by apathist
No. I like not hurting stuff that doesn't need it though. I say first trimester you need abort okay. Moving forward let's work together to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
You do know the unborn feel pain during the first trimester.

I suppose you are ok with killing people as long as thereis no pain.

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Originally posted by Eladar
You do know the unborn geel pain during the first trimester.

I suppose you are ok with killing people as long as thereis no pain.
Your first question, I am not happy about this. The first trimester is a compromise, with much reasoning and facts behind it. I accept it.

Your second question. wtf. I advocate minimizing pain. Don't crucify people anymore.

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