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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Either your moral code is absolute or it can change. So which is it?
Just pose me a scenario where you think I could go against by upbringing and my hard-wiring and start arguing that rape is morally justifiable.

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Originally posted by FMF
My moral objection to rape and murder has been unchanging my whole life long.
But if it is not absolute it could logically change in the future. By the way I think it probably is but you don't want to admit it for obvious reasons.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
I responded with the exact scenario that I thought you were depicting. And you just ignored it.
"Exact same scenario" as what?

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Originally posted by FMF
Just pose me a scenario where you think I could go against by upbringing and my hard-wiring and start arguing that rape is morally justifiable.
So are you arguing that your hard-wiring is absolute or changing? It's either the one or the other. So which is it?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
But if it is not absolute it could logically change in the future.
What would be "logical" circumstances for this change?

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Both of you have already stated that you each would murder under certain conditions.

Why this lengthy debate about 'absolutes'?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So are you arguing that your hard-wiring is absolute or changing? It's either the one or the other.
I am simply saying that my hard-wiring in harness with my moral education has been unchanging with regard to rape. I take full personal responsibility for my stance on rape.

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Originally posted by FMF
What would be "logical" circumstances for this change?
Your moral code is either absolute or it changes.

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Originally posted by chaney3
Why this lengthy debate about 'absolutes'?
If you had read the "lengthy debate" you'd know.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
Things are either absolute or they change.
Give me a scenario in which I might seek to justify rape as morally sound?

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Originally posted by FMF
I am simply saying that my hard-wiring in harness with my moral education has been unchanging with regard to rape. I take full personal responsibility for my stance on rape.
So why are you willing to use the word 'unchanging' but refuse to use the word 'absolute' when they mean exactly the same thing?

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
And you just ignored it.
What about my comment about genocide, your Bible, and sonship? Have you decided to ignore all that?

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Originally posted by FMF
If you had read the "lengthy debate" you'd know.
I have been following.

You FMF would murder a person who is about to commit genocide.

FMJ would murder someone who is threatening his life.

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Originally posted by FMF
Give me a scenario in which I might seek to justify rape as morally sound?
Either your stance on rape is absolute or it can change. I believe it is absolute, and you have admitted that it hasn't changed. So I think we are on the same page.

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Originally posted by Fetchmyjunk
So why are you willing to use the word 'unchanging' but refuse to use the word 'absolute' when they mean exactly the same thing?
Because I am talking about me being unchanging. You see, I am not attempting to self-aggrandize by projecting my attempts to be a morally sound and humane being onto you and everyone else by making debating club/petri dish claims about my interactions with the world being "universal" or "absolute" truths.

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