06 Aug '09 00:25>
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHere's the passage:
yes i have heard of these phrases and the wikipedia article was quite interesting, as to whether the statement you refer to can be interpreted as freedom from 'the penalties of sin', i do not think that it is possible, but then i am unaware of the context, but to be sure, sin may be pleasurable at the time, but its spiked with pain and its nature is ...[text shortened]... y be references for the former and the latter, it all really depends on the context i think.
John 8:32-36
So Jesus was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, "If you continue in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." They answered Him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never yet been enslaved to anyone; how is it that You say, 'You will become free'?"
Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin. The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever. So if the Son makes you free, you will be free indeed."
No mention of "penalty" here, though an explicit reference to "commits sin".