Originally posted by John W Boothmy take on it, what indeed is my take on it Mr.Booth, for i really don't think you know. I could not care less whether you are or you are not.
Life after death was what was being discussed, dude. The horrors of the concentration camps do not "verify" your take on it. And I am not a "secret Nazi" for disagreeing with you.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSS memorabilia? Goose-stepping? Why does me disagreeing with you raise these images in your mind?
i dont care whether you are a secret Nazi, i don't care what you think about the holocaust, infact i could care less whether you collect SS memorabilia ad practice the goose-step
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Originally posted by John W Boothnope, i was upset because you assigned to me values that were not true, and that my motives for doing so were manipulative, indeed the more i think of it, the more despicable it becomes. You accused me of deliberately introducing a theme for some nefarious purpose when in fact I simply wished to illustrate a point, it was nothing short of a lie to state that i did, i don't like the term myself, it appears to me to bellitle the experience and whether you were guilty of that or not, i don't really care, but continually imputing impure motives to me, i do care about.
Well you seem to be upset that I am "belittling" the victims.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe "hope for life after death" or other speculation, mitigating any fear of death, even in the concentration camp context, tells us absolutely nothing about "the permanent nature of death" or otherwise. You attempted to use the Holocaust to "verify" that it does, and then you went into your "you tosser, are you a secret Nazi, how dare you belittle the victims, smell the toast" routine when I disagreed with you.
why because your private life is your business? life after death Mr Booth, my take on it, ringing any bells? or should i say Mr. Boothsteiner!
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Originally posted by John W Boothyes it does not tell us anything about the permanent nature of death, nor was it ever intended to do so, you wrongly assumed that it was and therein is where the confusion arises. Secondly i was not upset because you disagreed with me, i was upset because you continually impute impure motives. Lastly you are equally as guilty of a smackdown approach as this and other threads indicate.
The "hope for life after death" or other speculation, mitigating any fear of death, even in the concentration camp context, tells us absolutely nothing about "the permanent nature of death" or otherwise. You attempted to use the Holocaust to "verify" that it does, and then you went into your "you tosser, are you a secret Nazi, how dare you belittle the victims, smell the toast" routine when I disagreed with you.
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks for the climbdown. Speculation about the afterlife and the "nature of death" was what this was always about. An apology for the playing of the the Nazi Card would have been better, I suppose, but I'll settle for the fact that you seem to need to distance yourself from your own little moments of pompous nastiness - others have pointed it out many times, across many threads - with clumsy 'wit' and backpeddling waffle seeking to disguise your sneering.
yes it does not tell us anything about the permanent nature of death...
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou may well think your "you tosser, are you a secret Nazi, how dare you belittle the victims, smell the toast" routine is rooted in pure motives. I don't. You are what you post, dude, even if you try distance yourself from it afterwards.
...you continually impute impure motives. .
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Originally posted by John W Boothclimbdown?? climbdown?? you should have realised by now that there are no regrets, you don't want to be termed a tosser, then don't belittle horrific episodes from history and impute impure motives to others for even deeming to use them to illustrate a simple point. The real culprit here is you Mr. Booth, why, you have failed to discern what the intended point of introducing an experience from the epoch of Nazi rule was, noooooo, you could not see that it was used to illustrate a simple instance of fortitude in the face of adversity in that the hope of the resurrection strengthened them to face trials , instead its playing the Nazi card in your contorted world, you failed to see that it has nothing to do with actual proof of life after death and continue to assert that it has, when called to account for it, you then get defensive, 'you don't think i understand the suffering', actually no i don't, indeed how could you unless you were there! as Solzhenitsyn states, 'Can a man who's warm understand one who's freezing? even here you continue to assert that i am playing the so called 'Nazi card', a theme introduced not by me but my you and then when i try to ascertain your aversion to using an experience from the epoch, you slither around as if i deliberately introduced it myself, which when i look through the thread is really nothing but a subterfuge for your inability to answer anything honestly!
Thanks for the climbdown. Speculation about the afterlife and the "nature of death" was what this was always about. An apology for the playing of the the Nazi Card would have been better, I suppose, but I'll settle for the fact that you seem to need to distance yourself from your own little moments of pompous nastiness - others have pointed it out many ...[text shortened]... many threads - with clumsy 'wit' and backpeddling waffle seeking to disguise your sneering.
Do you really think i actually care enough about this to sneer at you, i can assure you this little saga of yours means very little to me, indeed it has now only verified one thing, your ability to grasp simple truths is in serious want and instead you seem content to give vent to some paranoid episodes of delusional thought which manifest themselves through the imputation of ulterior motives to others!
you state that i am toast, well here i am , dancing above the swords with my kilt on, bare bum to the world and smiling happily from ear to ear! Hear that Mr .Booth, tis the sound of banners in the distance, banners full of cheer. . . .
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe Holocaust does not "verify" your speculation - or anyone else's speculation - about life after death and playing the Nazi Card against me for pointing that out to you cannot change the fact. Your "impure motives", as you yourself put it, are writ large across pretty much every page of this thread since page 2.
climbdown?? climbdown?? you should have realised by now that there are no regrets, you don't want to be termed a tosser, then don't belittle horrific episodes from history and impute impure motives to others for even deeming to use them to illustrate a simple point. The real culprit here is you Mr. Booth, why, you have failed to discern what the int ...[text shortened]... hat Mr .Booth, tis the sound of banners in the distance, banners full of cheer. . . .