Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat maybe the case, but another JW poster who's name has escaped me, was full of pride when telling the forum that all JW's talk, think and look the same.
Lol, no not quite assimilation by the Borg is against ones will, persons willingly submit to Gods will on the basis of love.
Originally posted by Proper Knobactually we are united in beliefs, to be sure and we do share similar characteristics, like we're all handsome and articulate and chess geniuses and well you know the routine.
That maybe the case, but another JW poster who's name has escaped me, was full of pride when telling the forum that all JW's talk, think and look the same.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieChess geniuses eh?
actually we are united in beliefs, to be sure and we do share similar characteristics, like we're all handsome and articulate and chess geniuses and well you know the routine.
Unfortunately the stats in the 'Jehovahs Witnessess Paradise Club' don't appear to back up that claim.
Galvo articulate? I'm not sure about that.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you some kind of novis before you pay the members fee? I mean before the final test? Or can you be a non-paying member forever?
I have tried to answer the best i could,
you study to become a witness, you don't sign up. You study Biblical scriptures and principles so as to know how to apply them in your life. During the course of the study (it may last for several years depending on the aptitude of the student) the Biblical view of sexuality will become apparent. If the ...[text shortened]... harmony with scripture. If he is successful in doing so he can then apply to become a witness.
(This is news for me, I appreciate your answers.)
Originally posted by FabianFnasmaking a dedication to God is no small thing, it is very serious, yes there are many persons who attend meetings for years and years and never become Witnesses.
Are you some kind of novis before you pay the members fee? I mean before the final test? Or can you be a non-paying member forever?
(This is news for me, I appreciate your answers.)
Originally posted by John W BoothBeing a theist, being an atheist, being this and being that, in my opinion is merely a projection of the mind, because no being of this kind of being has inherent existence due to the fact that it lacks of own being; a being of this kind of being like the idea "I am a theist" could have own being solely if this own being under question could be detectable, measureable, derivable, defineable and, thus, accessible by means of an independent frame of various cross checks pointing towards the existence of its own being.
I believe there is a God.
I can't prove He (She/It) exists.
I feel no need to.
I contemplate it from time to time.
He hasn't communicated with me.
He hasn't issued me with any instructions.
I have no idea what happens after death.
I leave speculation about that to others.
Because I have no interest in religion.
I feel no onus on me to 'spread' any 'word' about anything to anyone.
I am a theist.
Since the various attempts of manipulability of ideas like "I am a theist", "I am an atheist" etc etc end all up merely in a dynamic probability of failure decline, there is no such a thing as the so called “absolute truth” regarding this kind of theses. So I accept your thesis in full on the basis of the emptiness of your blind belief that urged you to express herenow you are a theist: methinks you have to substantiate no thing;
But I disagree with my trusty feer rabbie who tends to discard your thesis as “unsubstantiated” because it lacks of religious argumentation, for in my opinion any religious approach is anyway “substantiated” solely on the basis of a specific blind belief that must be accepted by the believer as is -you see, for example our vishvahetu thanks to his notorious “Leap of Faith” alone is 100% sure that the author of his Vedanta Sutra is God
😵
Originally posted by John W BoothSo now what?
I believe there is a God.
I can't prove He (She/It) exists.
I feel no need to.
I contemplate it from time to time.
He hasn't communicated with me.
He hasn't issued me with any instructions.
I have no idea what happens after death.
I leave speculation about that to others.
Because I have no interest in religion.
I feel no onus on me to 'spread' any 'word' about anything to anyone.
I am a theist.
You believe there is a God. What effect does that have on your life?
Do you live differently believing there is a God from how you would live if you didn't?
If so, why?
Originally posted by John W BoothBelieve it or not, dispute the fact that I don't believe there is a god, I am on your side.
I believe there is a God.
I can't prove He (She/It) exists.
I feel no need to.
I contemplate it from time to time.
He hasn't communicated with me.
He hasn't issued me with any instructions.
I have no idea what happens after death.
I leave speculation about that to others.
Because I have no interest in religion.
I feel no onus on me to 'spread' any 'word' about anything to anyone.
I am a theist.
The only thing that pisses me off is when a theists dishes out anti-science propaganda crap aimed at dismissing the mountain of evidence for evolution etc. or, even worse, arguing against reason itself!
Originally posted by Andrew Hamiltonyeah, who would of thought anyone should have the right to question the evolutionary hypothesis, i mean, its enshrined in sacred temples, has million of ignorant adherents world wide (ask the average man in the street what he knows about the mechanism of Darwinian evolution, the answer, not very much), has luminaries and cult figures who promote its propaganda, we should simply be assimilated and be done with it, join the collective subconscious with no will of our own! resistance is futile, resistance is futile!
Believe it or not, dispute the fact that I don't believe there is a god, I am on your side.
The only thing that pisses me off is when a theists dishes out anti-science propaganda crap aimed at dismissing the mountain of evidence for evolution etc. or, even worse, arguing against reason itself!
Originally posted by robbie carrobie“...yeah, who would of thought anyone should have the right to question the evolutionary hypothesis,...”
yeah, who would of thought anyone should have the right to question the evolutionary hypothesis, i mean, its enshrined in sacred temples, has million of ignorant adherents world wide (ask the average man in the street what he knows about the mechanism of Darwinian evolution, the answer, not very much), has luminaries and cult figures who promote its ...[text shortened]... the collective subconscious with no will of our own! resistance is futile, resistance is futile!
Did I say nobody has the “right” to question a scientific hypothesis? -that would be against scientific method! Evolution has been proven by a mountain of evidence. Evolution hypothesis was questioned countless times when it was being developed because the first thing scientists do when they make a hypothesis is ask themselves “how can it be wrong”; that is just how scientific method works. Now the hypothesis has been proven, yeah you can still question it 😛 -not sure what the point of that would be but, rather than accept proof as proof, you can question it until you are blue in the face if you want! Or you can just get over it.
“... i mean, its enshrined in sacred temples,...”
?
“...ask the average man in the street what he knows about the mechanism of Darwinian evolution, the answer, not very much...”
I don't know if that is true but most people on the street certainly could not explain quantum physics and yet they accept the fact that quantum physics is correct and they have more or less heard correctly that there is overwhelming evidence for it (but this may also have something to do with the fact that if it was false then modern technology wouldn't work) so they don't believe quantum physics out of blind faith. The same is true for evolution; not everyone understands the details but they have more or less heard correctly that there is overwhelming evidence for it (just like for quantum physics etc) so it wouldn't be blind faith for them to believe it.
“... has luminaries and cult figures who promote its propaganda, ...”
Quoting the facts is not just 'propaganda'.
Originally posted by Andrew Hamiltonas i stated and thank you for demonstrating the fact, resistance is futile! no one may question the chief chef and everyone reads from the same recipe book!
“...yeah, who would of thought anyone should have the right to question the evolutionary hypothesis,...”
Did I say nobody has the “right” to question a scientific hypothesis? -that would be against scientific method! Evolution has been proven by a mountain of evidence. Evolution hypothesis was questioned countless times when it was being developed ...[text shortened]... lt figures who promote its propaganda, ...”
Quoting the facts is not just 'propaganda'.