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    I've come to the conclusion that I no longer believe in the atheist god Obama. There is a reason he is referred to as an "empty suit".

    I don't think that such a person actually exists. No god could be so short sided, arrogant, and vengeful as he hunts down his adversaries with the IRS and further destroy the Middle class and kills people all over the world with drones.

    Sure, we see pictures and sound bites, but there are stunt doubles and reproduced sound bites to help explain that.
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    Take it to Debates, Spanky!
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    Originally posted by whodey
    I've come to the conclusion that I no longer believe in the atheist god Obama.
    So you believed in him before...?
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    Originally posted by divegeester
    So you believed in him before...?
    Nope, I never did.

    I think the problem here is that left wingers are just weak. They feel the need to believe that there is someone there that cares for them and will take care of them. In reality, they are just like the unborn. They have no brain activity, and without direct outside intervention they would all die on their own, so I say pull the plug!! 😵
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    Originally posted by whodey
    I've come to the conclusion that I no longer believe in the atheist god Obama. There is a reason he is referred to as an "empty suit".

    I don't think that such a person actually exists. No god could be so short sided, arrogant, and vengeful as he hunts down his adversaries with the IRS and further destroy the Middle class and kills people all over the wor ...[text shortened]... es and sound bites, but there are stunt doubles and reproduced sound bites to help explain that.
    I believe in Jesus.

    Everyone else is an empty suit. 😉
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    13 Oct '14 14:50
    Originally posted by whodey
    Nope, I never did.

    I think the problem here is that left wingers are just weak. They feel the need to believe that there is someone there that cares for them and will take care of them. In reality, they are just like the unborn. They have no brain activity, and without direct outside intervention they would all die on their own, so I say pull the plug!! 😵
    You suffer from confirmation bias.

    Some progressives don't care for Obama either. Gitmo's still open, and we're still bombing the piss out of the Middle East. We're still deep in debt, and the so-called 'Obamacare' was the product of a right-wing think-tank.

    O's presidency is virtually indistinguishable from W's. He's been a grave disappointment.
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    Originally posted by BigDoggProblem
    You suffer from confirmation bias.

    Some progressives don't care for Obama either. Gitmo's still open, and we're still bombing the piss out of the Middle East. We're still deep in debt, and the so-called 'Obamacare' was the product of a right-wing think-tank.

    O's presidency is virtually indistinguishable from W's. He's been a grave disappointment.
    "He's been a grave disappointment."

    But his speeches are really great to listen to. I was deeply moved several times by what sounded profoundly American. It would have been very good if what he said paired up with the things he did.

    But the same can be said for all our so-called leaders. I don't trust one of them anymore. They say and do not.
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    Originally posted by josephw
    [b]"He's been a grave disappointment."

    But his speeches are really great to listen to. I was deeply moved several times by what sounded profoundly American. It would have been very good if what he said paired up with the things he did.

    But the same can be said for all our so-called leaders. I don't trust one of them anymore. They say and do not.[/b]
    Exactly. Matthew 23:3. "...for they say, and do not." Good job.
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    13 Oct '14 15:42
    Originally posted by whodey
    Nope, I never did.

    I think the problem here is that left wingers are just weak. They feel the need to believe that there is someone there that cares for them and will take care of them. In reality, they are just like the unborn. They have no brain activity, and without direct outside intervention they would all die on their own, so I say pull the plug!! 😵
    Only a right-winger would say that left-wingers are weak because they care for helping others. Right-wingers, on the other hand, claim the poor deserve to have nothing and they fight tooth and nail against all efforts to help them. I'd rather be called "weak" and care for the poor and needy than to be called "strong" and not give a rat's ass about anybody besides myself.
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    Originally posted by whodey
    Nope, I never did.

    I think the problem here is that left wingers are just weak. They feel the need to believe that there is someone there that cares for them and will take care of them. In reality, they are just like the unborn. They have no brain activity, and without direct outside intervention they would all die on their own, so I say pull the plug!! 😵
    So your whole premise with this thread is just pointless rhetoric. Figured.
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    Originally posted by whodey
    Nope, I never did.

    I think the problem here is that left wingers are just weak. They feel the need to believe that there is someone there that cares for them and will take care of them. In reality, they are just like the unborn. They have no brain activity, and without direct outside intervention they would all die on their own, so I say pull the plug!! 😵
    I would not have voted for Hillary Clinton either, but I was sure wishing for her to win the nomination. I knew Obama was a liar and a Muslim antichrist from the beginning.
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    Now That He's President, Obama No Longer Pretends To Be Christian

    Obama campaigned as a committed Christain, but after being elected he ridiculed the Old Testament Laws and referred to the sermon on the mount of Jesus as radical. He no longer has time for church, but finds plenty of time for golf and vacationing at the expense of the people he is supposed to serve. Obama has even admitted he is a Muslim, which all informed people already knew.

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/obama/obama-ashamed-of-jesus.htm
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    In his own words: Barack Obama on Christianity and Islam

    1. “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam”

    2. “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

    3. “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

    4. “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

    5. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

    6. “Islam has always been part of America”

    7. “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

    8. “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

    9. “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

    10. “I made it clear that America is not – and will never be – at war with Islam.”

    11. “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

    12. “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

    13. “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”

    14. “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

    15. “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

    16. “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”

    17. “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

    18. “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”

    19. “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

    20. “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

    Here he is on Christianity:

    1. “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”

    2. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

    3. “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”

    4. “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”

    5. “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”

    6. From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”

    7. Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

    8. “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”

    9. “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”

    10. “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”

    11. “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”

    12. “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”

    13. “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”

    14. On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”

    15. “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

    16. “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”

    17. “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”

    18. “We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”

    19. “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra— (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”

    20. “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/04/in_his_own_words_barack_obama_on_christianity_and_islam.html
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    Originally posted by RJHinds
    [b]Now That He's President, Obama No Longer Pretends To Be Christian

    Obama campaigned as a committed Christain, but after being elected he ridiculed the Old Testament Laws and referred to the sermon on the mount of Jesus as radical. He no longer has time for church, but finds plenty of time for golf and vacationing at the expense of the people he is s ...[text shortened]... ed people already knew.

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/pages/obama/obama-ashamed-of-jesus.htm[/b]
    Oh yeah, and GWB was a born again Christian raising the dead and healing the sick.

    🙄
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    13 Oct '14 18:51
    Originally posted by josephw
    [b]"He's been a grave disappointment."

    But his speeches are really great to listen to. I was deeply moved several times by what sounded profoundly American. It would have been very good if what he said paired up with the things he did.

    But the same can be said for all our so-called leaders. I don't trust one of them anymore. They say and do not.[/b]
    When he speaks, it's just W with less gaffes. I hear him use the same rhetoric, like "the enemies of freedom will be hunted down, wherever they are." And Congress - both Republican and Democrat - are right there with him.
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