1. Standard memberblakbuzzrd
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    16 Jun '07 16:20
    Originally posted by Jake Ellison
    Remember not to look for the least obvious explaination. Often the cause of something will be rational.

    Just as an example (not saying you have this):

    Hypnagogic Hallucination:

    These hallucinations occur just before falling asleep and affect a surprising number of people in the population. The hallucinations can last from seconds to minutes, a ...[text shortened]...
    (From Wikipedia, sourced from http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/121/10/1819)
    One of my former colleagues actually wrote a graduate thesis on the role of sleep apnea in the experiences of those who claim to have been abducted by extraterrestrials or to have been visited by angels/demons.

    While sleeping, you stop breathing temporarily, and the oxygen deprivation leads to perceptual weirdness.
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    16 Jun '07 20:24
    Originally posted by amannion
    Here's the quote from your post - 'one of them was like a big white orb and it floated over my bed while i was sleeping'.
    oh my bad, i was trying to get to sleep i wasnt asleep yet
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    16 Jun '07 22:07
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    oh my bad, i was trying to get to sleep i wasnt asleep yet
    I don't normally quote myself but...

    'These hallucinations occur just before falling asleep and affect a surprising number of people in the population.'
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    17 Jun '07 01:49
    Originally posted by Jake Ellison
    I don't normally quote myself but...

    'These hallucinations occur just before falling asleep and affect a surprising number of people in the population.'
    it makes no difference to me whether it was a hallucination or not, i could care less whether ghosts exist
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    17 Jun '07 11:52
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    it makes no difference to me whether it was a hallucination or not, i could care less whether ghosts exist
    So your saying you think you might believe in something supernatural, because you've had experiences that may be hallucinations or may be real. But you don't actually care which it is, as far as your concerned, God can exist if he wants to but he better leave you alone?
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    17 Jun '07 12:20
    Originally posted by Jake Ellison
    So your saying you think you might believe in something supernatural, because you've had experiences that may be hallucinations or may be real. But you don't actually care which it is, as far as your concerned, God can exist if he wants to but he better leave you alone?
    yeah.
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    17 Jun '07 12:33
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    im flattered but im not gay, you can insult me though and ill insult you
    No, you cannot insult AThousandYoung, trust me, everything you say
    to him will be a compliment. 🙂
    Kelly
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    17 Jun '07 12:33
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    yeah.
    Fair enough.
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    17 Jun '07 12:35
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    yeah.
    Is that like saying I see a car getting ready to hit me at 60 miles
    an hour, it may be real or not, but I don't care enough to worry about
    what getting hit by it will do to me?
    Kelly
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    17 Jun '07 13:03
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Is that like saying I see a car getting ready to hit me at 60 miles
    an hour, it may be real or not, but I don't care enough to worry about
    what getting hit by it will do to me?
    Kelly
    Its not really like that at all. How many people do you know that have died in white-orb-hovering-ubove-their-bed related accidents?
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    17 Jun '07 13:25
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Is that like saying I see a car getting ready to hit me at 60 miles
    an hour, it may be real or not, but I don't care enough to worry about
    what getting hit by it will do to me?
    Kelly
    i never seen god before, but i heard he's forgiving
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    17 Jun '07 13:45
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    i never seen god before, but i heard he's forgiving
    Yes He is, but (you knew there had to be a 'but) under what conditions
    does God forgive? Are there conditions?
    Kelly
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    17 Jun '07 13:47
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Yes He is, but (you knew there had to be a 'but) under what conditions
    does God forgive? Are there conditions?
    Kelly
    you have to ask for forgiveness, which i do, but that doesn't mean i know he exists or that it matters if he exists
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    17 Jun '07 13:48
    Originally posted by Jake Ellison
    Its not really like that at all. How many people do you know that have died in white-orb-hovering-ubove-their-bed related accidents?
    My interest was perked with him agreeing with this statement,

    "But you don't actually care which it is, as far as your concerned, God can exist if he wants to but he better leave you alone?"

    That seemed to me a little on the playing with fire not caring if it would
    or could burn you and everything around you.
    Kelly
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    17 Jun '07 13:50
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    you have to ask for forgiveness, which i do, but that doesn't mean i know he exists or that it matters if he exists
    Why ask if He does not exist? If He does exist is just asking enough?
    How do you know such things? It seems like you are just attempting to
    hedge your bets, trying to do just enough, just incase.
    Kelly
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