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    even though i am not a theist anymore. 😕 at night i pray and i think it is out of fear, a just-in-case type of thing. any comments/criticisms/explanations are welcome. i thought it might be an interesting topic and it is true, not made up.
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    10 Dec '07 08:10
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    even though i am not a theist anymore. 😕 at night i pray and i think it is out of fear, a just-in-case type of thing. any comments/criticisms/explanations are welcome. i thought it might be an interesting topic and it is true, not made up.
    Nah, that's just habit. Don't sweat it.
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    10 Dec '07 11:28
    you are a lukewarm christian, not sure either way, when you pray ask for guidence, first.
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    10 Dec '07 13:02
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    even though i am not a theist anymore. 😕 at night i pray and i think it is out of fear, a just-in-case type of thing. any comments/criticisms/explanations are welcome. i thought it might be an interesting topic and it is true, not made up.
    You just don't understand statistics or have fallen for an illusion of some sort. There are so many possibilities when it comes to hypothetical supernatural being scenarios that the chances that the one you are going with 'just in case' is correct is so minuscule as to be ridiculous. If you really try for the 'just in case' then you would have to pray to every God / god ever dreamt up by humans and maybe to a few inventions of your own, just for good measure. But even then the fact that you are praying to any god at all might land you in hell for blasphemy against one of the other gods who doesn't like sharing.
    At some point you need to simply realize that:
    1. There is not God and you have nothing to fear.
    2. The Christian God just doesn't make logical sense anyway and if there was a god/God it is far more sensible to think that he/she would not send you to eternal punishment for not believing in him/her but would be far more concerned about how you treat your fellow man (on that point Jesus seems to agree with me). So maybe you should be helping out your fellow man 'just in case' and quit the praying.
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    10 Dec '07 13:04
    T.Head takes things very seriously.... maybe you are still a Christian!!!
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    10 Dec '07 15:37
    That's quite embarassing. At least it's something you keep to yourself, you're fine to do it.
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    10 Dec '07 15:42
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    even though i am not a theist anymore. 😕 at night i pray and i think it is out of fear, a just-in-case type of thing. any comments/criticisms/explanations are welcome. i thought it might be an interesting topic and it is true, not made up.
    It's a form of meditation, visualization and self-exploration. I "pray" to gods sometimes; I like Hermes and Apollo because they represent commerce and the sun. These help me keep my mind on being employed and calm me, because my biggest worry has been for a long time money. Now I'm doing ok, but I still have the lingering fears of being unemployed so I "pray" to these "gods" I don't believe in.
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    10 Dec '07 16:49
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    even though i am not a theist anymore. 😕 at night i pray and i think it is out of fear, a just-in-case type of thing. any comments/criticisms/explanations are welcome. i thought it might be an interesting topic and it is true, not made up.
    Fear of what? That you might be wrong?

    Ask yourself why you need God. You might find the answer interesting.
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    10 Dec '07 16:51
    Originally posted by josephw
    Fear of what? That you might be wrong?

    Ask yourself why you need God. You might find the answer interesting.
    One does not need to need God to fear the possibility that he exists. Remember, God, if he exists, actively persecutes people who don't worship him.
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    10 Dec '07 17:05
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    One does not need to need God to fear the possibility that he exists. Remember, God, if he exists, actively persecutes people who don't worship him.
    No he doesn't. As a matter of fact God is extending his grace to any one and every one who believes.
    If God were "persecuting" people, why are you still alive?
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    10 Dec '07 17:15
    Originally posted by josephw
    No he doesn't. As a matter of fact God is extending his grace to any one and every one who believes.
    If God were "persecuting" people, why are you still alive?
    Hear hear,well said!!!
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    10 Dec '07 17:22
    Originally posted by josephw
    No he doesn't. As a matter of fact God is extending his grace to any one and every one who believes.
    So if someone would believe in him, but think he's a monster, God would extend his grace to that person?
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    10 Dec '07 17:29
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    So if someone would believe in him, but think he's a monster, God would extend his grace to that person?
    Why would you believe him to be a monster...i think you are confusing God with Satan!
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    10 Dec '07 20:47
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    So if someone would believe in him, but think he's a monster, God would extend his grace to that person?
    Today, in this present dispensation, one cannot out-sin Grace.
    Don't be foolish. That doesn't mean we have a licence to sin.

    "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid."

    "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
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    10 Dec '07 20:56
    Originally posted by josephw
    Today, in this present dispensation, one cannot out-sin Grace.
    Don't be foolish. That doesn't mean we have a licence to sin.

    "What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid."

    "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."
    "Hark, the herald angels sing, the easter bunny's got some bling"
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