1. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    26 Mar '18 21:06
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    If it's really God, and he wants someone dead, he can do it. Problem solved.
    Yep.
  2. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    26 Mar '18 21:09
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Probably .. but sometimes he tests people.
    I guess people do it too.
    He tests people all the time


    Also his "appearing" may not be the way you imagine .
  3. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    26 Mar '18 21:11
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    What if the person God told you to kill was yourself?
    Suicide is an unworkable equation, even for God
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    26 Mar '18 21:25
    Originally posted by @rajk999
    Probably .. but sometimes he tests people.
    I guess people do it too.
    People like Charles Manson test others in this way...
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    26 Mar '18 21:27
    God would probably get impatient with all the questions I asked and zap me dead on the spot.
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    26 Mar '18 21:45
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    “We are all born with a duty to worship and obey God...”
    No we aren’t, not from a Christian perspective anyway. Where did you get that from?

    “And, from my position it is easier to accept a hypothetical for the purpose of exploring the idea of God, than it is, apparently, for believers.”
    We are not exploring the “idea of god”,we are exploring the id ...[text shortened]... thought.

    My question to you again...is why would you chose to kill rather than disobey god?
    I find many statements of that duty, but I know better than to expect consensus from Christians.
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    26 Mar '18 22:131 edit
    Originally posted by @js357
    I find many statements of that duty, but I know better than to expect consensus from Christians.
    But why would you chose to kill rather than disobey god? You seem unwilling to excerise some self reflection on this point.
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    26 Mar '18 22:49
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    God would probably get impatient with all the questions I asked and zap me dead on the spot.
    Lol
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    26 Mar '18 23:02
    Originally posted by @bigdoggproblem
    God would probably get impatient with all the questions I asked and zap me dead on the spot.
    I doubt it. he would probably do a Jonah on you.
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    26 Mar '18 23:12
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    But why would you chose to kill rather than disobey god? You seem unwilling to excerise some self reflection on this point.
    I said why.
    Duty.
    You don't accept that as Biblical .
    Now what?
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    27 Mar '18 01:09
    Originally posted by @js357
    I said why.
    Duty.
    You don't accept that as Biblical .
    Now what?
    I don’t understand how you an atheist would feel such a sense of duty to a god you’ve never known, who suddenly turns up and presented itself to you and told you to go and kill, that you would.

    How can you explain that decision, what duty would you have?
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    27 Mar '18 03:541 edit
    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Suicide is an unworkable equation, even for God
    What if God asks you to sacrifice yourself to atone for the sins of humanity?

    Such as setting up a situation in which you know you will be killed.
  13. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    27 Mar '18 05:17
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    What if God asks you to sacrifice yourself to atone for the sins of humanity?

    Such as setting up a situation in which you know you will be killed.
    Thats not suicide. Thats like freeing your soul.

    Deep down we all know the truth
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    27 Mar '18 08:22
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    What if God asks you to sacrifice yourself to atone for the sins of humanity?

    Such as setting up a situation in which you know you will be killed.
    And don't even get me started on Samson.
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    27 Mar '18 09:514 edits
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    I don’t understand how you an atheist would feel such a sense of duty to a god you’ve never known, who suddenly turns up and presented itself to you and told you to go and kill, that you would.

    How can you explain that decision, what duty would you have?
    You are stretching the premises of the OP beyond recognition. Why are you doing that? Is it because if you stick to the OP premises, my behavior is understandable?

    Compare your version to: “...you are convinced that He is who He says He is” and it may be more understandable. Otherwise you are asking me to defend a straw man.

    Edit: simply put, my understanding of the concept of God holds that if I were convinced that God has made his existence known to me, I would recognize it to be my duty to worship and obey him. If he issued a command that caused me to stop being convinced that he was who he said he was, the OP premise stated above would not be satisfied and I would not consider myself to have said duty.
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