Originally posted by @moonbusIn the case of Jesus, he knew that the pain was temporary and that the end result would be back in heaven with God where he was before. Me .. wont have a problem with that.
What if God asks you to sacrifice yourself to atone for the sins of humanity?
Such as setting up a situation in which you know you will be killed.
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-Removed-The stretch is characterizing my conviction as being about a god “you’ve never known, who suddenly turns up and presented itself” as if I have round heels for the first hallucination or manifestation of Satan that comes along. But question away.
My sole declaration for some time now, and the only one I stand behind, is that I lack belief in deity. I don’t call myself or subscribe to the label of atheist as one who has a positive belief that no deity exists.
You must have me confused with someone else or with your stereotype of an atheist.
In the hypothetical, said god commands, not requests. And I said nothing on the commanded act being for or against my own moral code.*
I thought we were coming to an understanding so I could ask questions on the meaning behind the kind of people this god would command us to kill. It seems to set up a challenge about some OT commands, probably aimed at Sonship.
But we’re not getting anywhere. If you come to the conclusions you have, based on my answers to questions, I don’t see much value in answering them.
*quick edit. Some aspects of my hypothetical moral code in this hypothetical can be inferred.
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-Removed-"... your original declarative post where you expressed surprise that more Christians didn’t hold the same view as you..."
Well, there being a surprise here told me that at least one of my assumptions was wrong. I believe it was the idea that having faith in a Christian God's existence entails acknowledging a moral obligation to worship and obey the commands of God because they are commands of God. For a significant sample of Christians, it doesn't, and this does not set our righteousness over God's, perhaps because we are called upon by God to develop our moral sense further than blindly waiting around for the next divine command.
Hypothetically, that is.
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Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemHe didn't zap Job. Do you think you have better questions than Job had?
God would probably get impatient with all the questions I asked and zap me dead on the spot.
Originally posted by @bigdoggproblemThere was no need for you to jump on the reading comprehention band wagon. What I read and what I ASKED are different.
You have reading comprehension difficulties. I said "many". You read "better".
And I ASKED if you have better questions then Job had?
Well? Do you?