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Originally posted by Halitose
Can one be happy for its own sake? Can happiness rest on its own – uncaused and ungrounded?
Yes.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
It means different things in different contexts. Our context is in this phrase 'the meaning of life' or this one 'the meaning of your life' or this one 'your life has meaning'. Whatever the case knowlege of it is not the only prevention against suicide.
'Meaning' implies some inherant purpose beyond just existance or actions.

If we don't clear up the meaning of 'meaning' will one of us will commit suicide? 🙂
'Meaning' implies some inherent purpose beyond just existence or actions.

I like this definition.

Without this said meaning, can you give a reason why your life may not be terminated?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Yes.
Care to sustain this?

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Originally posted by Halitose
Care to sustain this?
I'm not in the mood for writing poetry.

Happiness is a mystery.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I'm not in the mood for writing poetry.

Happiness is a mystery.
So you'd say that the phrase: "I'm happy because I'm happy" has infinite meaning for you?

I agree with your last assertion. Although I'd say there are large parts of it that are tenable.

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Originally posted by Halitose
So you'd say that the phrase: "I'm happy because I'm happy" has infinite meaning for you?
If you said that to me I'd be happy for you.

Of course one can be happy for a reason, but there doesn't have to be a reason. Do you disagree?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
If you said that to me I'd be happy for you.

Of course one can be happy for a reason, but there doesn't have to be a reason. Do you disagree?
Do you disagree?

Yes.

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Originally posted by Halitose
[b]Do you disagree?

Yes.[/b]
Oh well. Sorry for that.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Oh well. Sorry for that.
Yeah. No resolution here.

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Isn't it enough that, having been given life, one finds meaning to it by looking for it?

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Originally posted by Halitose
Yeah. No resolution here.
That's your problem. But your problem interests me. Why are you unable to be happy unless you have a reason to be so?

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Originally posted by Starrman
Isn't it enough that, having been given life, one finds meaning to it by looking for it?
Perhaps it is under your shoe.

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Originally posted by Halitose
'Meaning' implies some inherent purpose beyond just existence or actions.

I like this definition.

Without this said meaning, can you give a reason why your life may not be terminated?
Because I desire to live. As I have said before.

Do plants know the meaning of thier lives? Why dont they all commit suicide?

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Perhaps it is under your shoe.
I doubt it, but the damned d100 might be, I'll look.

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Originally posted by Starrman
Isn't it enough that, having been given life, one finds meaning to it by looking for it?
A journey requires a destination.

For some, the search for truth (and meaning) should be a never-ending quest (which btw, is an oxymoron) -- the free wind of inquiry must always blow in the mind -- “To travel hopefully is better than to arrive.”

Some reach the point of saying that the journey is the all there is, absolute truth is too stifling in its finality. Truth can only function as an abstract concept.

However, I believe the search for Truth and meaning is like a thirst; and for one who is never quenched, water becomes more imaginative and distant from reality.

Some find themselves in a certain current of ideas and plunge into it because it seems modern, successful and influential. One writes what will get recognition, and says things that win applause (e.g. lambasting Bush, Christians in general and/or advocated "alternative lifestyles" ). When has one honestly faced, in solitude, the one question on which this all turns – whether, after all, there may be some meaning to our existence or purpose in our design?