1. Standard memberkaroly aczel
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    16 Oct '11 00:39
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Vd. entiende ... Gracias.

    It's my birthday...... ignore me......I'm having fun! 🙂

    -n.
    Happy Birthday, what are you now,28? 😀

    Best wishes ..

    (I love birthdays unlike those beastly JW's)
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    16 Oct '11 06:19
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Of course I believe it.
    I couldn't be sure. I often hear Christians make threats that they do not themselves believe - especially to children.
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    16 Oct '11 07:47
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Happy Birthday, what are you now,28? 😀

    Best wishes ..

    (I love birthdays unlike those beastly JW's)
    46 :'( .. another year closer to death! 😀
  4. SubscriberSuzianne
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    16 Oct '11 13:49
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I couldn't be sure. I often hear Christians make threats that they do not themselves believe - especially to children.
    Children are a special case. I believe adults can handle the truth. Some children cannot. Some of the more serious topics of the Bible and Christianity should wait until the child can handle it, usually around the age when they can make their own decision about following Christ. The Mormons believe this age is around age 8, and many other denominations believe it's around that time. Of course, it depends on the child, too.

    Parents who use God as another boogeyman to keep their kids in line are doing a disservice to themselves, to their child and to God.

    That being said, why in the world would I make a threat that I do not myself believe? Not much of a threat then, is it? Moreover, I wouldn't even classify it as a threat. Just a warning.
  5. SubscriberSuzianne
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    16 Oct '11 13:53
    Originally posted by josephw
    Then it's true? You're a seeker?
    They call me The Seeker
    I've been searching low and high
    I won't get to get what I'm after
    Till the day I die
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    16 Oct '11 16:13
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    That being said, why in the world would I make a threat that I do not myself believe? Not much of a threat then, is it? Moreover, I wouldn't even classify it as a threat. Just a warning.
    I wouldn't know why, but it is quite common.

    So maybe you would like to explain it further: why do you think God would punish someone more severely because they led someone else away from being Christian? Especially if they did so without knowing it or at least without knowing that it was wrong and what the consequences were?
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    17 Oct '11 07:17
    Originally posted by mikelom
    ... were intelligent enough to not self-deceive, because of their own fear of themselves, and recognise that there is no such thing as a God, then what would have been the historical alternative creationalist allusion in order to replace the current misnomer, do you think?

    -m.
    To deny God in the face of all the undeniable evidence - is to be thoroughly dishonest.

    Therefore any comments uttered by persons fitting that description - are baseless.
  8. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 21:55
    Originally posted by mikelom
    ... were intelligent enough to not self-deceive, because of their own fear of themselves, and recognise that there is no such thing as a God, then what would have been the historical alternative creationalist allusion in order to replace the current misnomer, do you think?

    -m.
    What an irony that you are the one being self-deceived.
  9. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:001 edit
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    Happy Birthday, what are you now,28? 😀

    Best wishes ..

    (I love birthdays unlike those beastly JW's)
    I think the JWs just don't like the "old" part. 😀
  10. Standard membersumydid
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    17 Oct '11 22:01
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I think the JWs just don't like the "old" part. 😀
    Oh.

    I thought they just hated celebration on any level.
  11. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:02
    Originally posted by mikelom
    46 :'( .. another year closer to death! 😀
    And the Judgment. 😳
  12. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:03
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Children are a special case. I believe adults can handle the truth. Some children cannot. Some of the more serious topics of the Bible and Christianity should wait until the child can handle it, usually around the age when they can make their own decision about following Christ. The Mormons believe this age is around age 8, and many other denominations ...[text shortened]... of a threat then, is it? Moreover, I wouldn't even classify it as a threat. Just a warning.
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:07
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    The Jews believe the age of the age of accountability is 12 or 13.
    That is when they have there Bat Mitzvah and Bat Mitzvah.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah
  14. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:09
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    They call me The Seeker
    I've been searching low and high
    I won't get to get what I'm after
    Till the day I die
    Is that in a song?
  15. Standard memberRJHinds
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    17 Oct '11 22:12
    Originally posted by twhitehead
    I wouldn't know why, but it is quite common.

    So maybe you would like to explain it further: why do you think God would punish someone more severely because they led someone else away from being Christian? Especially if they did so without knowing it or at least without knowing that it was wrong and what the consequences were?
    I think she is referring to the teaching of another to disobey one of
    God's commandments.
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