Originally posted by chaney3The topics that Jesus would like people to discuss/get right must be things that he preached ... eg in Matt 5,6 &7 there is a long lecture on righteous living and how one can get into the Kingdom of God so one can conclude that [plus other passages] show that Jesus wants us to get that right.
#1.....His identity.
Is He God's son?
Or is He God?
Good place to start.
Is there somewhere in the teachings of Jesus you can show where He thought that ..Is He God's son? Or is He God? .. , is something we need to get right?
23 Jul 16
Originally posted by Rajk999So just adopt the Jesus of the trinity then Rak, since it's no big deal.
The topics that Jesus would like people to discuss/get right must be things that he preached ... eg in Matt 5,6 &7 there is a long lecture on righteous living and how one can get into the Kingdom of God so one can conclude that [plus other passages] show that Jesus wants us to get that right.
Is there somewhere in the teachings of Jesus you can show where He thought that ..Is He God's son? Or is He God? .. , is something we need to get right?
Originally posted by chaney3Did Christ make a big deal of it? If so please show me where. The things Christ will make a big deal of are clearly stated in His teachings and in the teachings of the Apostles he sent.
So just adopt the Jesus of the trinity then Rak, since it's no big deal.
If this matter of the trinity bothers you then you have issues that the teachings of Jesus cannot address.
23 Jul 16
Originally posted by Rajk999Okay Rak, then I will ask you directly. Who did Jesus say He was?
Did Christ make a big deal of it? If so please show me where. The things Christ will make a big deal of are clearly stated in His teachings and in the teachings of the Apostles he sent.
If this matter of the trinity bothers you then you have issues that the teachings of Jesus cannot address.
And if you have an answer, tell me how and why sonship would disagree with you, if both of you are reading the same words.
23 Jul 16
My list (I imagine if I were write this out later it would be different as I go through my day)
Not trying to trick anyone into saying anything we can pounce on, this is just my opinion
at this time, subject to change as yours would be too.
1. Love for God what that means
2. Love for man what that means
3. God's Kingdom
4. God's call into His Kingdom
5. Jesus's work for us and His role in our lives.
6. God's Spirit roll in our lives
7. Obeying God rather than sacrifice
8. Faith in God
9. Trials in this world
10. Treasure in this world, since this life is short and the next one is not.
23 Jul 16
Originally posted by chaney3Jesus said he was the Son of God. If anyone disagrees then thats not my concern.
Okay Rak, then I will ask you directly. Who did Jesus say He was?
And if you have an answer, tell me how and why sonship would disagree with you, if both of you are reading the same words.
23 Jul 16
Originally posted by KellyJayIn your list, when you speak of God, are you really speaking about Jesus?
My list (I imagine if I were write this out later it would be different as I go through my day)
Not trying to trick anyone into saying anything we can pounce on, this is just my opinion
at this time, subject to change as yours would be too.
1. Love for God what that means
2. Love for man what that means
3. God's Kingdom
4. God's call into His Kingdo ...[text shortened]... als in this world
10. Treasure in this world, since this life is short and the next one is not.
That's why His identity matters, in MY opinion.