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-Removed-So you think your God as described in Genesis is a hypocrite because He told Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil because God already had the knowledge of good and evil, so he was a hypocrite for not keeping to the rules that He gave His creation?
Originally posted by @fmfThere are a few avenues that can be brought up both for and against homosexuality. On the for side, there can be love... and im sure there are a few with a deep commitment towards each other. but there are two problems with this. The first being worse. Sexual intercoarse, there is none, except the perverse. And the second, thinking themselves to be husband and wife or similar. It is a figment of the imagination, it warps the phycie
Morality governs interactions between people. If a homosexual relationship is loving, if there is no deceit, if there is no hurt or harm, if there is no endangering negligence, if promises are kept, if there is no coercion, and if there is informed consent, then how is it anything but moral?
What stands against homosexuality are many things, both the seen and unseen. Just on the human aspects alone, it is a very selfish act. There are no offspring, no continuation of the species. If everyone did this, it would be the end of mankind.
Other issues that are vaguely addressed, the number of diseases that stem from the act of so called '' intercoarse''. There is so much politics involved, the education on this is lax at best. These diseases worse than hiv are its mutated offspring.
Another issue which is mixed with the diseases are the combo punches of a mental/physical sickness not many have even heard about.
all of this, and i havent even touched on religion.
so please tell me the good side of homosexuallity, because i will tell you, there is none.
Originally posted by @pudgenikI'm happily married (to a woman) but have no offspring or indeed any plans to procreate. Am I therefore also guilty of a 'very selfish act.'
There are a few avenues that can be brought up both for and against homosexuality. On the for side, there can be love... and im sure there are a few with a deep commitment towards each other. but there are two problems with this. The first being worse. Sexual intercoarse, there is none, except the perverse. And the second, thinking themselves to be husband ...[text shortened]... n.
so please tell me the good side of homosexuallity, because i will tell you, there is none.
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeNo, but you are also not switching partners unless you are swingers (which you are not).
I'm happily married (to a woman) but have no offspring or indeed any plans to procreate. Am I therefore also guilty of a 'very selfish act.'
switching partners often is also common in that lifestyle.
Originally posted by @pudgenikPromiscuity is common in many lifestyles, irrespective of sexual orientation. The same goes for committed relationships built on love and trust. Heterosexuals don't have a monopoly on that.
No, but you are also not switching partners unless you are swingers (which you are not).
switching partners often is also common in that lifestyle.
Originally posted by @fmfFMF: Do you have any moral arguments - without resorting to your notions regarding supernatural stuff - that contend that homosexual sex is, in and of itself, immoral?
Why not have a go?
Originally posted by @secondson
Yes, but would you understand any of it?
Originally posted by @fmf
Why not have a go?
Then let's go.
Consider the symptoms of immorality. What are the consequences of a lifestyle contrary to that which is proscribed in the Bible?
Simply look up the statistics. The numbers are staggering across the board.
-Removed-You really do not understand how any of this works, do you?
If you simply throw out the concept of "Is it immoral to eat pork?", "Is it immoral to kill another person?" or "Is it immoral to steal a car?", the assume circumstance is one in which the central theme of the action is a man, with zero extenuating circumstances and zero context, eats pork or kills another person.
The assumption is never "If a man is starving in captivity and the only thing available to eat is pork, is eating pork immoral?"
Nor is it ever, "In war time, is it immoral for a man to kill another man while engaged in combat?"
Just as such, when the question is, "Is it immoral to burn a human being alive?", the context is never thought of as God and hell.
Morever, and more importantly, human beings in hell have sent themselves to hell for their actions.
Just as it is not immoral to put a man in prison for 25 years for the crime of murder, it is not immoral to punish someone else for their crimes with damnation to hell.
If you were to ask, "Would it be immoral for you to kidnap a person and keep them in your basement for 25 years?" the answer owuld be an obvious YES, but you have not accurately described the circumstances.
Originally posted by @secondsonSo what are your non-religious moral arguments?
FMF: Do you have any moral arguments - without resorting to your notions regarding supernatural stuff - that contend that homosexual sex is, in and of itself, immoral?
Originally posted by @secondson
Yes, but would you understand any of it?
Originally posted by @fmf
[b]Why not have a go?
Then let's go.
Consider the symptoms of i ...[text shortened]... bed in the Bible?
Simply look up the statistics. The numbers are staggering across the board.[/b]
Originally posted by @pudgenikSo what are you suggesting? That people who are homosexuals should just be heterosexual? And have children?
What stands against homosexuality are many things, both the seen and unseen. Just on the human aspects alone, it is a very selfish act. There are no offspring, no continuation of the species. If everyone did this, it would be the end of mankind.
Other issues that are vaguely addressed, the number of diseases that stem from the act of so called '' interc ...[text shortened]... n.
so please tell me the good side of homosexuallity, because i will tell you, there is none.