Originally posted by @philokaliaHaving homosexual sex with someone using coercion or without informed consent would be immoral to my way of thinking. As for pedophiles, I am not particularly interested in what thoughtcrimes they have because of their "sense of sexuality"; I see morality as governing action, interaction, and behaviour. I see sexual acts against children as immoral as they involve sex that is engaged in without informed consent and, as there is a power imbalance angle between an adult and a child, I'd consider it a form of coercion too. Does your Bible tell you how young a child you can have sex with?.
Would you not say that a pedophile has a perverted sense of sexuality? Would it not be possible that this word applies to all manner of other orientations?
FMF to Pudenik: "Perverse"? You mean you really, really don't like it, right?Pudgenik's word choice is not a "little thing" in the context of this conversation. His feeling that homosexuality is "perverse" is either a religious notion - in which case he should talk to religious people about it - or he uses the word "perverse" because he is not homosexual and finds the idea of having sex with another man deeply unappealing - in which case his use of the word is emotional and is not making a moral argument.
Originally posted by @philokalia
Pudgenik, pay no mind to the way that FMF will focus in on these little things.
Originally posted by @fmfOr he could be using the word “perverse” as a loose synonym for “abnormal.” There’s always that possibility.
Pudgenik's word choice is not a "little thing" in the context of this conversation. His feeling that homosexuality is "perverse" is either a religious notion - in which case he should talk to religious people about it - or he uses the word "perverse" because he is not homosexual and finds the idea of having sex with another man deeply unappealing - in which case his use of the word is emotional and is not making a moral argument.
Originally posted by @romans1009<or he uses the word "perverse" because he is not homosexual and finds the idea of having sex with another man deeply unappealing>
Or he could be using the word “perverse” as a loose synonym for “abnormal.” There’s always that possibility.
Do you find the idea of having sex with another man to be deeply unappealing, Kiddo?
Have you and tiger been experimenting?
Originally posted by @secondsonFor homosexuals to feel attraction and love for each other and want to enter into a loving relationship is natural for them. That you find it "abhorrent" does not alter this. For them, mutual attraction is normal and natural in the same way heterosexuals feel attraction and love for each other and want to enter into loving relationships. Most homosexuals I have known have been rationally objective thinking men and women who know the difference between right and wrong.
Homosexuality is an act of defiance against nature, and is morally abhorrent to the mind of a rationally objective thinking man or woman that knows the difference between right and wrong.
Originally posted by @fmfSo individuals and not society or statistics decide what is normal? I’m sure the bloke who wears a pair of underwear as a hat while shopping at the supermarket thinks that’s normal and natural.
For homosexuals to feel attraction and love for each other and want to enter into a loving relationship is natural for them. That you find it "abhorrent" does not alter this. For them, mutual attraction is normal and natural in the same way heterosexuals feel attraction and love for each other and want to enter into loving relationships. Most homosexuals I have ...[text shortened]... een rationally objective thinking men and women who know the difference between right and wrong.
