1. Standard memberPalynka
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    15 Sep '08 13:44
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Fundamentalists are always evil - or fools.
    Religion doesn't matter, there are fundamentalists of every religion.
    There is fundamentalism in every ideology.
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    15 Sep '08 14:12
    Originally posted by Palynka
    There is fundamentalism in every ideology.
    So true.

    There were fundamentalists responcible to september 9th, there are fundamentalists wanting occupation of Palestine to continue, Aum-movement in Tokyo are (not were) fundamentalists, Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple in Jonestown was fundamentalist, the list is long.

    And there are a bunch of fundamentalistic ideologogies too, but this is Spiritual forum.
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    15 Sep '08 14:14
    Originally posted by Palynka
    There is fundamentalism in every ideology.
    I wonder whether Buddhism is an ideology.
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    15 Sep '08 15:021 edit
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    I wonder whether Buddhism is an ideology.
    Depends if you see religions as a subset of ideologies.
    But this doesn't matter for the sake of discussion.
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    15 Sep '08 15:11
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Depends if you see religions as a subset of ideologies.
    But this doesn't matter for the sake of discussion.
    Why doesn't it matter?
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    15 Sep '08 15:17
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Why doesn't it matter?
    Because I don't want to go off-topic.

    My statement was
    "Fundamentalists are always evil - or fools.
    Religion doesn't matter, there are fundamentalists of every religion."
    and then it doesn't matter if Buddhism is an ideology or not. I treat it as a religion amongst others.

    If you want to have Buddhism as an ideology, fine with me.
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    15 Sep '08 15:42
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Because I don't want to go off-topic.

    My statement was
    "Fundamentalists are always evil - or fools.
    Religion doesn't matter, there are fundamentalists of every religion."
    and then it doesn't matter if Buddhism is an ideology or not. I treat it as a religion amongst others.

    If you want to have Buddhism as an ideology, fine with me.
    It isn't off-topic to discuss first what Buddhism is, before discussing any of its characteristics.

    This, however, is off-topic.
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    15 Sep '08 15:49
    Originally posted by Palynka
    It isn't off-topic to discuss first what Buddhism is, before discussing any of its characteristics.

    This, however, is off-topic.
    If Buddhism is a religion, or an ideology, doesn't change my point much...

    I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. I am, for the sake of the future of our world, scared of them. From them terrorists are recruited.
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    15 Sep '08 16:181 edit
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    If Buddhism is a religion, or an ideology, doesn't change my point much...

    I don't like fundamentalists of any kind. I am, for the sake of the future of our world, scared of them. From them terrorists are recruited.
    Your simple-mindedness never ceases to astound me. So you decided to start a rant about religion on a thread about Buddhism and now you say that Buddhism doesn't matter whether it is a religion or not.

    Fascinating. I guess you were right. Your..."point"...was off-topic. The question on whether Buddhism can be consider an ideology, however, might not be.
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    15 Sep '08 16:301 edit
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Your simple-mindedness never ceases to astound me. So you decided to start a rant about religion on a thread about Buddhism and now you say that Buddhism doesn't matter whether it is a religion or not.

    Fascinating. I guess you were right. Your..."point"...was off-topic. The question on whether Buddhism can be consider an ideology, however, might not be.
    Is this important? Does it matter?
    What do you think? Is Buddhism a religion or an ideology?
    Does Buddhism have fundamentalists, and if so, does it matter?
    Further - if Buddhism is a religion or an ideology - the fact that Buddhism can have, or don't have, fundamentalists change anything?
    Or is this discussion about the above important at all?
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    15 Sep '08 18:49
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    Is this important? Does it matter?
    What do you think? Is Buddhism a religion or an ideology?
    Does Buddhism have fundamentalists, and if so, does it matter?
    Further - if Buddhism is a religion or an ideology - the fact that Buddhism can have, or don't have, fundamentalists change anything?
    Or is this discussion about the above important at all?
    Have you considered Buddhism?
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    15 Sep '08 18:57
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    If Buddhism is a religion, or an ideology, doesn't change my point much...
    You have no point, only an affectation. That could be advantageous.
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    15 Sep '08 19:10
    Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
    Have you considered Buddhism?
    To be a Buddhist? No. But I have friends who call themselves Buddhist. My opinion of their Buddhism is that it is more Buddhish kind than real Buddhism.

    I hold Dalai Lama very high. He is in the level of Jesus, or above, in my opinion. He is anti-violence, I am too.
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    Hi FF pal!

    They say that Tao cannot be expressed with words and due to this fact they consider that the “holy scriptures” are worthless. They say that everybody who understands his nature can find Tao even if he is quite illiterate and ignorant. They say that everybody who understands his nature is Buddha.

    Buddhism is not a religion although the Buddhists feel free to practice their system through religions too. Some Buddhist systems are associated with supernatural axioms, some are not.
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    16 Sep '08 09:45
    Originally posted by black beetle
    Hi FF pal!

    They say that Tao cannot be expressed with words and due to this fact they consider that the “holy scriptures” are worthless. They say that everybody who understands his nature can find Tao even if he is quite illiterate and ignorant. They say that everybody who understands his nature is Buddha.

    Buddhism is not a religion although the B ...[text shortened]... ough religions too. Some Buddhist systems are associated with supernatural axioms, some are not.
    Buddhism is a religion, allright.
    However, they have no god in standard Buddhism, as Buddha is not a god.
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