31 Aug '05 03:44>1 edit
Coming in late... but to get back to the topic proposed regarding the possibility that "god is just a logical fallacy". Some ruminative notions ~ Cows R Us!
I have tried, without much success, it would seem, to inject a book by Julian Jaynes called "The Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind" into a number of threads that dealt with the nature of consciousness.
Some few years ago, I was writing a paper called "Obedience & Authority" and trying to determine the relationship between the two... for, very surely, one cannot exist without the other. I was wondering why we followed, when our leadership was often so grossly out of human tune.
I was thinking about Hitler, Stalin, Nixon, etc.... I waded through the usual Freud & Fromm & Skinner psychological claptrap without finding the palpable point of connection between the follower and the leader.
On my third reading of Jaynes' book, I realized that his thesis went a long way towards explaining this connection. Basically he postulates that we have internalized the leader's calls - the voices that we relied upon when we were primitive tribal primates. He combines pre-historical evidence with interpreted early literary/historical insinuations and some quantum sociology.
It is a convoluted and exquisitely simple explanation for the madness that we live through. I recommend it highly. It explains why god is just an easy excuse for what and why we are too weak to decide for ourselves. Pity so many people die in god's name.... It explains why we are pre-disposed towards obedience.
I have tried, without much success, it would seem, to inject a book by Julian Jaynes called "The Origin Of Consciousness In The Breakdown Of The Bicameral Mind" into a number of threads that dealt with the nature of consciousness.
Some few years ago, I was writing a paper called "Obedience & Authority" and trying to determine the relationship between the two... for, very surely, one cannot exist without the other. I was wondering why we followed, when our leadership was often so grossly out of human tune.
I was thinking about Hitler, Stalin, Nixon, etc.... I waded through the usual Freud & Fromm & Skinner psychological claptrap without finding the palpable point of connection between the follower and the leader.
On my third reading of Jaynes' book, I realized that his thesis went a long way towards explaining this connection. Basically he postulates that we have internalized the leader's calls - the voices that we relied upon when we were primitive tribal primates. He combines pre-historical evidence with interpreted early literary/historical insinuations and some quantum sociology.
It is a convoluted and exquisitely simple explanation for the madness that we live through. I recommend it highly. It explains why god is just an easy excuse for what and why we are too weak to decide for ourselves. Pity so many people die in god's name.... It explains why we are pre-disposed towards obedience.