1. Standard memberDavid C
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    30 Aug '05 07:17
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude:

    'The universe is like an intricate watch.
    A watch must have been designed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    30 Aug '05 07:52
    Originally posted by David C
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude: ...[text shortened]... ed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
    It is all in the timing. 🙂
    Kelly
  3. Standard memberdj2becker
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    30 Aug '05 08:001 edit
    Originally posted by David C
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude: ...[text shortened]... ed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
    If God does not exist then why do you care if he does or not?

    Do you know the Bible contains the words, "...there is no God" a couple of times?😉

    Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

    Isaiah 45:5 - I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 🙂
  4. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    30 Aug '05 08:10
    Originally posted by David C
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude: ...[text shortened]... ed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
    the creator is like a watchmaker
    a watchmaker makes watches
    therefore the creator makes watches
  5. Standard memberdj2becker
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    30 Aug '05 08:12
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    the creator is like a watchmaker
    a watchmaker makes watches
    therefore the creator makes watches
    Ever heard of a simile?
  6. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    30 Aug '05 08:14
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Ever heard of a simile?
    Ever hear of a joke?
  7. Standard memberdj2becker
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    30 Aug '05 08:171 edit
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    Ever hear of a joke?
    Where's the punchline? 😉

    PS: You're just like that cross-eyed olympic discuss-thrower that kept all the spectators on their toes.
  8. Standard memberDavid C
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    30 Aug '05 08:241 edit
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    If God does not exist then why do you care if he does or not?
    Wow. Stunningly apropos. I'm going to read that sentence again, to see if it makes any sense a second time around.

    edit: nope.
  9. Standard memberDavid C
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    30 Aug '05 08:24
    Originally posted by dj2becker
    Ever heard of a simile?
    uh-huh. Ever heard of a 'false analogy'?
  10. Standard memberDavid C
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    30 Aug '05 08:26
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    the creator is like a watchmaker
    a watchmaker makes watches
    therefore the creator makes watches
    Helluva Bulova, that must be.
  11. Standard memberdj2becker
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    30 Aug '05 08:36
    Originally posted by David C
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude: ...[text shortened]... ed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
    I think so.

    Why do you trust your own thinking?
  12. Standard memberfrogstomp
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    30 Aug '05 08:40
    Originally posted by David C
    Helluva Bulova, that must be.
    God aint very infallible if He made any of my watches, especially the water-proof one thats full of beer.
    Lost a bar bet on that one.


    ruined da beer too.
  13. Standard membergenius
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    30 Aug '05 09:43
    Originally posted by David C
    I think so. Consider:

    'Throughout history, most people have believed in some sort of God. Therefore, God exists.'

    'The Bible says god exists, therefore god exists.'

    'God must exist: so many people find happiness in religion.'

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?'

    And then, the IDers favorite platitude: ...[text shortened]... ed by a watchmaker.
    Therefore, the universe must have been designed by some kind of creator.'
    the only real fallacy there is that you call that "logic".

    'Will you accept Jesus as your saviour, or burn for eternity in Hell?' is not a logical statement. it is, i think, true but it cannot be found logically from anything. it is something you have to learn...

    and the first one is a curious one-worthy of it's own thread, perhaps?
  14. Standard memberThequ1ck
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    30 Aug '05 09:52
    Originally posted by frogstomp
    the creator is like a watchmaker
    a watchmaker makes watches
    therefore the creator makes watches
    Women = money x time
    Time = money

    Therefor

    Women = money x money = money^2

    Money is the root of all evil

    Therefor

    Women = Evil.
  15. Standard membergenius
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    30 Aug '05 10:04
    Originally posted by Thequ1ck
    Women = money x time
    Time = money

    Therefor

    Women = money x money = money^2

    Money is the root of all evil

    Therefor

    Women = Evil.
    that, however, is good, mathematical, logic. completly unrefutable.
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