Is gravity evidence of a creator?

@vivify said
https://www.universetoday.com/116615/how-are-energy-and-matter-the-same/

"Albert Einstein’s most famous equation says that energy and matter are two sides of the same coin."

I know.

@vivify said
Okay, so you already understand this.

That's what I mean when I said all matter existed in some form, even if that meant as energy.

No, what you asserted is that energy is a type of mass. It isn’t.

The equation which describes mass being converted into energy is, like all equations, reversible.

@divegeester said
No, what you asserted is that energy is a type of mass. It isn’t.

The equation which describes mass being converted into energy is, like all equations, reversible.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

@vivify said
Okay, I see what you're saying.

Oh thanks!

That was a refreshing experience 😊

@divegeester said
Oh thanks!

That was a refreshing experience 😊

Well, you were absolutely correct.

But do you agree that all matter/energy have always existed in some form?

@vivify said

But do you agree that all matter/energy have always existed in some form?

I do, I do.

@ghost-of-a-duke said
I do, I do.

Why?

@vivify said
Well, you were absolutely correct.

But do you agree that all matter/energy have always existed in some form?

Why?

@divegeester

Ok thanks, I just couldn’t be bother to read your super-long post. Sorry.

No need to apologize. I know you're coming down to discussion by emoji.

@kellyjay said
Why?

Because matter/energy didn't pop out of nowhere. See the Law of Conservation of Energy.

@vivify said
Because matter/energy didn't pop out of nowhere. See the Law of Conservation of Energy.

You are not answering my question! As pointed out by others, the law of motion not
once ever moved a billiard ball; laws don't create. The law of conservation of energy is
how energy behaves as we perceive it, as the law of gravity, Ohm law, and all of the
laws of the universe, these are laws due to the consistency we see in them; those are
what they do, which is not an answer to where they came from.

@divegeester said
KellyJay has famously asserted that science cannot explain where gravity comes from or what causes it.

Let’s suspend or ignore 350 years of scientific research for a moment and imagine that science hasn’t yet explained gravity.

To your way of thinking, would gravity then be proof of a creator?

I think your question in the subject line is more of koan than I want to consider, but it's a good question.

From my little POV a Creator of some sort seems more likely than not, in general just going by intuition and analogy [and following on from that, by dint of my having occurred and being able to think and write this post], rather than what passes for Earth logic.

However, of course this does not mean that I necessarily accept the fables and assertions of Earth scriptures regarding the attributes of the Creator and the details of how we might effectively interact with the Creator (or not).

Not quite a Deist. Not quite a Zen guy. Not quite a New Thought guy.

@sonship said
@divegeester

Ok thanks, I just couldn’t be bother to read your super-long post. Sorry.

No need to apologize. I know you're coming down to discussion by emoji.

Tell us some more about the beings who lived on Mars before Satan destroyed them.

If you write a long post about that I bet everyone will read it.

@divegeester said
Tell us some more about the beings who lived on Mars before Satan destroyed them.

If you write a long post about that I bet everyone will read it.

The way to get along in the Garden of the God you seem to pretend to believe in, is to allow other sprouts to grow as they will, and at their own pace.

I don't remember you having ever posted anything along those lines, which makes you come across as a petty, haughty weed-trimmer.

Is that really your vision for yourself, and how you want to behave -- the ripples of influence you want to send out before you croak, you demented jackass? Please get better. Put on your own oxygen mask first.

Please heal yourself before you try to heal or correct others.

(As I understand the religion you pretend to believe in, it is not we who heal, but Christ who heals through us. Is this congruent with your understanding?)

Or: If you really are a Christian (or believe that you are), I think the proper thing to do would be to ask Christ to heal you, and for you to leave other people alone.

Whether you become a Christ-changed healer would not be under your control, from my understanding.