1. Greece
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    @kellyjay said
    To be clear, nothing created something, and it banged? Be specific, if you don't mind
    I'm a creationist, so I say God did it, but He transcends this universe; what do you
    think happened; I don't want to assume?
    I think god made the “Big Bang” too!

    You agree with that?
  2. Standard memberKellyJay
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    @divegeester said
    I think god made the “Big Bang” too!

    You agree with that?
    I believe He spoke into reality, I don't think a bang was involved just a beginning,
    so we are in the same ballpark.
  3. R
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    26 May '22 03:191 edit
    In the meantime for any who might be interested.
    Here are two passages from Genesis chapters 1 or 2 that I set to song.

    1.) Genesis 2:7 "God Formed Man (out of the dust of the ground)"

    https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore/godformedmangen-2-7

    2.) Genesis 1:26 "God Created Man (in His own image)"

    https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore/god-created-mangen-126
  4. SubscriberFMF
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    @sonship said
    In the meantime for any who might be interested.
    Here are two passages from Genesis chapters 1 or 2 that I set to song.

    1.) Genesis 2:7 "God Formed Man (out of the dust of the ground)"

    https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore/godformedmangen-2-7

    2.) Genesis 1:26 "God Created Man (in His own image)"

    https://soundcloud.com/jack-wilmore/god-created-mangen-126
    Which should we opt for, do you think, if time is short? The Bible or you singing?
  5. R
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    @FMF

    lol.

    You always manage to find something to complain about.

    "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another with psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to God." (Col. 3:16)

    Its great that we believers in God have the joy in our hearts to overflow with singing.
  6. R
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    26 May '22 03:40
    Out of the mouth of babes . . . !

    https://soundcloud.com/nate-whilden/let-the-word-of-christ-dwell-in-you-richly-col-316-feat-eliana
  7. Greece
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    27 May '22 05:441 edit
    @kellyjay said
    I believe He spoke into reality, I don't think a bang was involved just a beginning,
    so we are in the same ballpark.
    Euphemisms like “he spoke” and “Big Bang” are meaningless in an early universe environment were there was no air to carry sound waves.

    Saying “he spoke” might be reflect the transplanted words written thousands of years ago in a book, but if you said to a non Christian today “before the Big Bang, God SPOKE it into existence”, you just sound a bit like a Cecil B. DeMille boomy voiceover from the Ten Commandments movie.
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    @sonship said
    Its great that we believers in God have the joy in our hearts to overflow with singing.
    Dodge noted.
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    @vivify said
    A dense singularity.
    And what else?

    (Stay with me, here, I assure you I am not merely "taking the piss".)
  10. R
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    @FMF


    Depression noted.
  11. SubscriberFMF
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    @sonship said
    Depression noted.
    Huh?
  12. Standard memberKellyJay
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    27 May '22 14:47
    @divegeester said
    Euphemisms like “he spoke” and “Big Bang” are meaningless in an early universe environment were there was no air to carry sound waves.

    Saying “he spoke” might be reflect the transplanted words written thousands of years ago in a book, but if you said to a non Christian today “before the Big Bang, God SPOKE it into existence”, you just sound a bit like a Cecil B. DeMille boomy voiceover from the Ten Commandments movie.
    How it sounds if true is purely irrelevant it’s the truth that sets free not what itches our ears, sounding good.
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    @suzianne said
    And what else?
    Everything that would eventually form the known universe.
  14. Greece
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    27 May '22 22:29
    @kellyjay said
    How it sounds if true is purely irrelevant it’s the truth that sets free not what itches our ears, sounding good.
    Telling non Christians that “god spoke and the universe came into existence” is not going to “set them free” from anything.
  15. Standard memberKellyJay
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    @divegeester said
    Telling non Christians that “god spoke and the universe came into existence” is not going to “set them free” from anything.
    Telling the truth will; the thing about truth is every area where we know the truth will
    always fit with every other area where truth is known. We cannot do logic without
    truth, we cannot do science without truth, and we cannot know anything unless we
    grasp the truth of it; if not, we are believing illusions, lies, misinformation and
    we find ourselves elevating opinions to be equal and preferred to the truth, because
    it suits our tastes.
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