Is hell eternal?

Originally posted by @divegeester
This is debate forum Eladar; of course if you find it difficult to answer because you anticipate my next question then I fully understand you ducking out.

You really are self absorbs aren't you. Simpleton pestering does not equal difficult question. It equals difficult person with personal issues.

Originally posted by @eladar
You really are self absorbs aren't you. Simpleton pestering does not equal difficult question. It equals difficult person with personal issues.

As I said, it's fine if you don't feel you want to engage in debate about you claims, and you prefer to just put them out there and hope no one notices the error.

Originally posted by @divegeester
As I said, it's fine if you don't feel you want to engage in debate about you claims, and you prefer to just put them out there and hope no one notices the error.

What you are doing is not debate, it is pestering. It is a form of bullying which is easily swatted away by those of superior understanding.

Originally posted by @eladar
Jesus said if you do not forgive others, then God will not forgive you and you will be handed over to torturers until an unpayable debt is repaid.

Chapter and verse please.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Chapter and verse please.

Matthew 18:21-35

Originally posted by @eladar
What you are doing is not debate, it is pestering. It is a form of bullying which is easily swatted away by those of superior understanding.

As I said you are free to avoid responding if you feel unable to.

Originally posted by @divegeester
As I said you are free to avoid responding if you feel unable to.

As I said, you are a bad case of self importance and limited intelligence. There are other reasons for not responding but you don't seem intelligent enough to understand.

Originally posted by @eladar
As I said, you are a bad case of self importance and limited intelligence. There are other reasons for not responding but you don't seem intelligent enough to understand.

Here again are the two questions you seem to be finding difficulty with:

1) What biblical evidence do you have that Jesus wanted to prevent people attaining eternal life?

2) Do you take everything writing in the bible literally?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Here again are the two questions you seem to be finding difficulty with:

1) What biblical evidence do you have that Jesus wanted to prevent people attaining eternal life?

2) Do you take everything writing in the bible literally?

There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.

Originally posted by @eladar
There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.

You can explain how my questions are stupid if you like, or you can continue to be angry because you are having to avoid answering them...

Originally posted by @divegeester
You can explain how my questions are stupid if you like, or you can continue to be angry because you are having to avoid answering them...

There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.

Originally posted by @eladar
There is no good way to answer fools when they say something stupid. If you answer them, then you, too, will look like a fool. If you don’t answer them, they will think they are smart.

These are on topic questions Eladar, here they are again:

1) What biblical evidence do you have that Jesus wanted to prevent people attaining eternal life?

2) Do you take everything writing in the bible literally?

Originally posted by @eladar
Matthew 18:21-35

Matthew 18: 32-35 Then his master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant!
I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. And should not you have had
mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ 34 And in anger his master
delivered him to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly
Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart.”

I was looking for the term "unpayable debt is repaid", but it is still a verse to inform those
of us who do not forgive will not be forgiven. I'd also beware of calling people names,
since that too puts one in danger of Hell fire.

Matthew 5:22
But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment;
whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will
be liable to the hell of fire.

Or to have sin in your life, not even our lives are worth saving if we are cast into Hell.

Matthew 5:29
If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you
lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell.

Matthew 5:30
And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that
you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

We do know fire is part of the torment that is being used now, and will come.

Luke 16:22-24English Standard Version (ESV)
The poor man died and was carried by the angels to Abraham's side. The rich man also
died and was buried, and in Hades, being in torment, he lifted up his eyes and saw
Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he called out, ‘Father Abraham, have mercy
on me, and send Lazarus to dip the end of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I
am in anguish in this flame.’

Revelation 14:9-11English Standard Version (ESV)
And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships
the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also
will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he
will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the
presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they
have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever
receives the mark of its name.”

Judgment Before the Great White Throne
Revelation 20: 11-15
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth
and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and
small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was
opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the
books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it,
Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one
of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the
lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found
written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

When it is all said and done, evil and everyone who does evil will be judged. From that
point forward those that turned to God for His grace and mercy will not have to deal with
evil ever again. All of us need forgiven, but not all of us want to be by Christ.

Originally posted by @kellyjay
Matthew 18: 32-35 Then his master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant!
I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. And should not you have had
mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?’ 34 And in anger his master
delivered him to the jailers, until he should pay all his debt. 35 So also my heavenly
Father will do t ...[text shortened]... to deal with
evil ever again. All of us need forgiven, but not all of us want to be by Christ.

So I take it you are satisfied with the book and verse.

Originally posted by @eladar
So I take it you are satisfied with the book and verse.

You twisted it when there was no need, it was clear on its own.