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Originally posted by Halitose
One down, six to go... 😏

Edit 1: Drat! Didn't see your other posts...
I'm sorry, I have been over these verses so many times, I just copy and paste....Let me make it easier, there are far more verses than what you suggest that Trinitarians use....go here to get the rest.....
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=109

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
Halitose...
Jesus did not just claim to be teaching the truth, He claimed He is the Truth (John 14:6)

God is the truth, agreed, Jesus could say this because ...

Heb 1:3
3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at ...[text shortened]... of the Majesty on high,
(NKJ)

He is the "image" of God, not God. "Like Father, like son"
In what way is the Son of God, different to God?

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
I'm sorry, I have been over these verses so many times, I just copy and paste....Let me make it easier, there are far more verses than what you suggest that Trinitarians use....go here to get the rest.....
http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=109

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Thanks. I'll check it out. Although I don't quite see how this difference in our theology makes any difference in our salvation. Do you think trinitarians are hellbound?

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Originally posted by Halitose
In what way is the Son of God, different to God?
Jesus was created (born)...he is flesh, yes, his lineage traces back to Adam....but god "created" seed in Mary, so Jesus did not inherit "sin nature"...He was the 2nd Adam...mentioned in the NT....He is far greater than a God/man...whom I cannot relate to....He was a man who had free will to choose to obey God...that is taken away if he is God....God cannot be tempted, Jesus was....there are so many differences, I don't have the time right now, but will address later. Jesus IS Lord and the head of the church, don't get me wrong...but He did not raise himself, because then he would not have been truly dead........visit that website...God bless.....CB

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Originally posted by Halitose
Thanks. I'll check it out. Although I don't quite see how this difference in our theology makes any difference in our salvation. Do you think trinitarians are hellbound?
No........

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Originally posted by Halitose
Thanks. I'll check it out. Although I don't quite see how this difference in our theology makes any difference in our salvation. Do you think trinitarians are hellbound?
Agreed... so many get caught in thoelogy, when they should be focused on action... theology, like faith, is worthless without action to follow it up... I may recieve a different revelation from any given scripture then someone else, but in the end, it is what I live that matters... people live what they believe...

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
Jesus was created (born)...he is flesh, yes, his lineage traces back to Adam....but god "created" seed in Mary, so Jesus did not inherit "sin nature"...He was the 2nd Adam...mentioned in the NT....He is far greater than a God/man...whom I cannot relate to....He was a man who had free will to choose to obey God...that is taken away if he is God....God ...[text shortened]... elf, because then he would not have been truly dead........visit that website...God bless.....CB
but he was born from mary's womb so isn't he at least half a sinner? otherwise your saying sin carried is paternally and only men are sinners.

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Originally posted by cavan
but he was born from mary's womb so isn't he at least half a sinner? otherwise your saying sin carried is paternally and only men are sinners.
Mary was conceived without sin, so that solves your problem.

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Originally posted by lucifershammer
Mary was conceived without sin, so that solves your problem.
Was Mary's mother conceived without sin? or her father? Even kicking the can down the road an extra generation doesn't solve the problem, LH; it just makes JC 1/4 of a sinner rather than a 1/2.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Was Mary's mother conceived without sin? or her father? Even kicking the can down the road an extra generation doesn't solve the problem, LH; it just makes JC 1/4 of a sinner rather than a 1/2.
I've never really thought about it, but I wonder what Mary ate while she was pregnant. Her diet would certainly have affected the development of the Jesus-foetus.

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Originally posted by cavan
but he was born from mary's womb so isn't he at least half a sinner? otherwise your saying sin carried is paternally and only men are sinners.
Life of the flesh is in the blood....
Lev 17:11
11 'For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.'
(NKJ)

This is found in the seed of the male....(God), thereby sinless bloodline.

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Originally posted by lucifershammer
Mary was conceived without sin, so that solves your problem.
Not true...even though she was a wonderful person, she was born with a sin nature....only someone conceived by God Himself would qualify...she was a great woman full of faith to believe the angel.

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Originally posted by checkbaiter
Life of the flesh is in the blood....
Lev 17:11
11 'For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul.'
(NKJ)

This is found in the seed of the male....(God), thereby sinless bloodline.
Besides your obvious limited knowledge of biology, you're not seriously asserting that God impregnanted Mary using his actual semen ("seed of the male"😉 are you?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Besides your obvious limited knowledge of biology, you're not seriously asserting that God impregnanted Mary using his actual semen ("seed of the male"😉 are you?
He created seed in a virgin.

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'Virgin conception' first for UK


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4228992.stm


Of course, they are not the first 😉