-Removed-Why yes we all do. Jehovah the Father of Jesus is the 1st and as he being "God Almighty" is the saviour of all....................BUT................... he has set up and allowed his son to be our saviour since a flesh and blood sacrifice had to be made as a ransome for what Adam lost for us all. So by the will of his Father Jehovah, Jesus his son has been given that opportunity to act as an abassador so to speak for his Father and has taken this respondsibility.
Do you remember the scripture that says that sometime in the future Jesus will hand the Keys or the Kingship of the Kingdom back over to his Father? If you don't let me know and I'll post it for you.
So until this is handed back over to his Father Jehovah, Jesus is at this time the acting King and Saviour on our behalf.
Originally posted by JS357Begotten:
Could somebody explain then, exactly what "begotten" means? Was Jesus's beginning the uniting of the DNA of a human female with that of a human male, via ovum and sperm cells, in the usual location? If nothing else, a yes or no is requested from the participants in this blitz thread.
The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Lo′gos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18) He is the only one of his kind, the only one whom God himself created directly without the agency or cooperation of any creature. He is the only one whom God his Father used in bringing into existence all other creatures. He is the firstborn and chief one among all other angels (Col 1:15, 16; Heb 1:5, 6), which angels the Scriptures call “godlike ones” or “gods.” (Ps 8:4, 5) Therefore, according to some of the oldest and best manuscripts, the Lord Jesus Christ is properly described as “the only-begotten god [Gr., mo‧no‧ge‧nes′ the‧os′].”—Joh 1:18, NW, Ro, Sp.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI doubt it...But anyway, it looks like your invisible friend is losing this fight Robbie 😲 Pick yourself up and go get em champ, I'm rooting for ya
i say you are like Dr Frankenstein and its only a matter of time before the villagers
swamp your home carrying pitchforks and torches!
Go Robbie Go Go Go!!! 😵
Originally posted by galveston75So Jesus didn't have any of his mother's DNA?
Begotten:
The angels of heaven are sons of God even as Adam was a “son of God.” (Ge 6:2; Job 1:6; 38:7; Lu 3:38) But the Lo′gos, later called Jesus, is “the only-begotten Son of God.” (Joh 3:18) He is the only one of his kind, the only one whom God himself created directly without the agency or cooperation of any creature. He is the only one wh ...[text shortened]... ten god [Gr., mo‧no‧ge‧nes′ the‧os′].”—Joh 1:18, NW, Ro, Sp.
Originally posted by JS357Yes God did create Jesus as a spirit being in heaven before anything else was created, so that's where and when the term Only Begotten is applied. But I thought you were refering to when he was born on earth as a human. That's when he would have DNA from his mother Mary.
Was it you who said he was the only one whom God himself created directly without the agency or cooperation of any creature?