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Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

Is Jesus of New T LORD/Jehovah of the Old T?

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So Jesus our saviour is not in that saviour position because of his father Jehovah putting his son there for us?

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nvm

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Wow. Must be to deep or to simple for you?

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TAG!... Trinitarians do not believe in three Gods, they believe the one true God is manifested in three forms or offices. From Galvo and Rc's responses they believe in two seperate and distinct Gods, this is blasphemy of the highets order.

They cannot reconcile there belief system with scripture so they resort to condecending attitudes and obfuscation. They further insult our intelligence by trying to decieve people with a dishonest translation of God's Holy Word.

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From earlier threads the JW's believe that Jesus and God the Father are two seperate God's. They furhter believe that they are both savior's...a contradiction of scripture.

I didn't mean to imply you said there were 3 Gods, but rather I was clarifying a response to their tired old argument.

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It amazes me that theists on either side of the fence find the other's position incredulous on this issue!

Astrologer: wtf??? you believe in palm reading?
Palm reader: wtf??? you believe our lives are mapped out by star signs?

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Originally posted by Doward
TAG!... Trinitarians do not believe in three Gods, they believe the one true God is manifested in three forms or offices. From Galvo and Rc's responses they believe in two seperate and distinct Gods, this is blasphemy of the highets order.

They cannot reconcile there belief system with scripture so they resort to condecending attitudes and obfuscation. The ...[text shortened]... our intelligence by trying to decieve people with a dishonest translation of God's Holy Word.
Without scripture? Are you kidding? You need to go back and check all our other postings as you haven't been paying attention it seems.

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Originally posted by galveston75
Without scripture? Are you kidding? You need to go back and check all our other postings as you haven't been paying attention it seems.
There is no way fully decribe God. The old testement says God is one. The New testement reveals a triune quality about this God. Either the two testements harmonize or there is an issue. It has to be one or the other atleast for the Christian mind.


Manny

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IF God is almighty then He can reveal himself in anyway He chooses. We see a plural all the way back in Geninsis When God said let us make man in our image. Why are most translations in agreement on this? Why is it not translated Let me make man in my image?

Manny

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Jehovah is the source of salvation and it is expressed through his chief agent Christ.

Now divegeester, you will answer the question that you have evaded now for the fourth time, Does Christ have a saviour?
He answered you a few post back I believe.



Manny

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
yawn, here we go again, more trinity dogma, ok lets take the first one,

how is it that Christ is with God and God at the same time, please explain, how i am
with my wife and be my wife at the same time, that is after all, what your translation is
saying, is it not?

here it is,

He was in the beginning with God
How? The Logos was with God and was God. Then the Logos became flesh and lived among men. I understand that the Greek word Logos is more than just the word word. It means the very expression of God.


Manny

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Originally posted by menace71
How? The Logos was with God and was God. Then the Logos became flesh and lived among men. I understand that the Greek word Logos is more than just the word word. It means the very expression of God.


Manny
perhaps then you can answer what Doward has failed to answer, how is it possible
to be with someone and to be them at the same time? perhaps you can answer
what divegeester has failed to answer, although being asked no less than four
times, how is it that Christ himself has need of a saviour?

(Hebrews 5:7) . . .In the days of his flesh [Christ] offered up supplications and also
petitions to the One who was able to save him out of death, with strong outcries and
tears, and he was favourably heard for his godly fear. . .

Hebrews 5:7 (New International Version, ©2011)
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with
fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was
heard because of his reverent submission.

Hebrews 5:7 (New Living Translation)
While Jesus was here on earth, he offered prayers and pleadings, with a loud cry
and tears, to the one who could rescue him from death. And God heard his prayers
because of his deep reverence for God.

are we to believe that Christ was offering prayers and supplication up to himself, on
behalf of himself, to save himself?

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