Originally posted by galveston75
Lol....The truth sets one free from OLD teachings that were devised by men as this trinity was. The Isrealites and Jews never once thought of and believed in anything like the trinity and anywhere you search on the internet, library, etc on their history compared to the ones who did believe in triad Gods the proof is there IF you really want to learn.
...[text shortened]... d only a few find it.
We fully expect that most will not see the falseness of the trinity.
I just posted the following on the Holy Spirit thread for you.
I took a lot of time looking up the references and typing out
the info since I am a poor typist. I copied my post below for
you since you can not understand why some of us believe the
trinity is not a false doctrine.
I've shown you scripture after scriptures that totally shows that there is one
God consisting of three persons of which the angel praised with Holy, Holy, Holy.
The Hebrew word translated "God" is in the plural form. God says let Us make
man in Our image is obviously not talking about or to angels for they are not
made in the image of God. The use of the plural in Hebrew along with the
subsequent use of the plural pronouns should at least be a cause for
suspicion that God is more than just one person. You accept that the father
is God and believe His name is Jehovah (YHVH, YHWH, Yahweh, etc). Yet
the Holy Bible does not come right out and say the Fathers name is Jehovah,
does it? Jesus never refers to His Father as Jehovah does He? I believe you
also accept Jesus as God also or at least a god. Jesus is called God in John 1:1,
"Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 (see also 10:21), "our great God and Savior" in
Titus 2:13, and "Lord" in (Romans 10:9; 1 Corinthians 12:3; Philippians 2:11).
Since the Holy Bible says there in only one true God, is Jesus a true God or a
false God? I don't believe you think Jesus is a false God, so it should be
reasonable to think the Godhead consist of at least two persons. That being
the Father and the Son. But let's not stop there, for the Bible also says one
more person is God, that is the Holy Spirit. (Acts 5:3-4) Besides all three being
called God, they all are seen at times to possess the attributes of diety.
1. Omnipresent - 1 Kings 8:27, Matthew 28:20, Psalm 139:7.
2. Omniscience - Psalm 147:5, John 16:30, 1 Corinthians 2:10
3. Omnipotence - Psalm 135:6, Matthew 28:18, Romans 15:19
4. Holiness - Revelation 15:4, Acts 3:14, Romans 1:4
5. Eternity - Psalm 90:2, Micah 5, John 1:2, Revelation 1:8,17
Each of these three are described as the truth - John 7:28, Revelation 3:7,
1 John 5:6
Each of the three are called Lord - Luke 2:11, Roman 10:12, 2 Cor. 3:17.
There other things in common too like, powerful, everlasting, and almighty.
But I am a little tired of getting all the references, so forgive me for stopping
here. Now after considering all the evidence I listed above take a look at
Matthew 3:16-17and 2 Corinthians 13:14. Now they alone do not prove the
trinity doctrine but they definely support it. I am using the NASB for my
references. So just as you believe the Father's name is Jehovah because you
see some support for it, those of us, who believe in the trinity doctrine, do so
because we see a lot of support for it. So I can't see why you insist it come
right out and say that God is a trinity.
Either you are Robbie mentioned something about the "Alpha and Omega" only referring to the Father. As I was looking up these other reference I came
across the following:
Revelation 1:7-8 says someone is coming in the clouds and every eye will see
Him, even those who pierced Him. This sounds like Jesus to me.
Then continuing in verse 8 it says, "I am the Alpha and the Omega", says the
Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
Now note what He says in Revelation 22:12-13, "Behold, I come quickly.......
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the
end. Then note the response when He says again in verse 20, "Yes, I come
quickly." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. Then verse 21 says, The grace of the
Lord Jesus be with us all.
Also note Revelation 2:8, "And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
The first and the last, who was dead, and has come to life says this:"
This obviously is Jesus speaking and He idenifies Himself as the first and
the last. See also, Isiah 48:12-13.
Remember also that this is the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
I hope you appreciate what I have done for you and don't just ignore it.