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Originally posted by RJHindsAnd why is that?
Well then, in that case, it should make it even clearer to you
as to what I am saying.
Oh and yout still avoiding my questions above.
Originally posted by galveston75The answer to your question is the Father, this is why the Father tells the
Sure all authority is given to him. First who gives it to him? If he is equal to God in all aspects already though because of the trinity dogma, how can it be given to him as he would all ready have it as would the holy spirit?
Does not the trinity say they are all equal in all aspects, all knowing, all powerful? So how can one part be lacking in auth ...[text shortened]... oblems though with a being like that but I won't go there as it start to get really silly....
Originally posted by RJHindsIf you are at all interested in the origins of your trinity you should read this...
The answer to your question is the Father, this is why the Father tells the
Son to sit at His right hand for a little while so He can make His enemies
a footstool for His feet. Then the scepter to the throne of God would be
given to the Son indicating all authority in heaven and on earth has been
turned over to Him.
Originally posted by galveston75eerie silence. . . . . . . . . .from the trinitarians.
If you are at all interested in the origins of your trinity you should read this...
http://www.heraldmag.org/olb/contents/doctrine/the%20origin%20of%20the%20trinity.htm
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
http://babylon-the-great.xanga.com/591912769/item/
http://www.2001translation.com/Trinity.html
http://www.piney.com/His21.html
http://theproblemwith.xanga.com/702510982/item/
Originally posted by RJHindsGeeez... You really don't realize almost every comment you make back disproves the trinity do you? I'm not trying to be rude to you at all but you really don't see do you?
The answer to your question is the Father, this is why the Father tells the
Son to sit at His right hand for a little while so He can make His enemies
a footstool for His feet. Then the scepter to the throne of God would be
given to the Son indicating all authority in heaven and on earth has been
turned over to Him.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNot in my mind robbie.
eerie silence. . . . . . . . . .from the trinitarians.
just an extract,
The current mainstream teaching in Christianity is that God is a coequal, coeternal,
one-substance trinity, and that Jesus Christ is God. This doctrine is considered by
many as the cornerstone of Christianity, but where did this doctrine come from?
The historical rec ...[text shortened]... one God and believed in a
subordinate Son.
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThanks buddy..... I just hope they actually look some of these up.
eerie silence. . . . . . . . . .from the trinitarians.
just an extract,
The current mainstream teaching in Christianity is that God is a coequal, coeternal,
one-substance trinity, and that Jesus Christ is God. This doctrine is considered by
many as the cornerstone of Christianity, but where did this doctrine come from?
The historical rec ...[text shortened]... one God and believed in a
subordinate Son.
http://www.christadelphia.org/trinityhistory.htm
Originally posted by galveston75You use the world "people" instead of "persons". Maybe, that is why
Geeez... You really don't realize almost every comment you make back disproves the trinity do you? I'm not trying to be rude to you at all but you really don't see do you?
Think with logic on this:
If your Father was a King but decided to give you, his son, a well earned position next to him in his Kingdom and even said for a thousand years you ...[text shortened]... anything we know of here on earth to relate to.
It just makes no sense...............
Originally posted by RJHindsYou didn't get my example at all! Oh well I tried.
You use the world "people" instead of "persons". Maybe, that is why
you do not understand the trinity doctrine. I think you are using the
definition of "persons" to mean "human beings". This would be like
saying there are three creatures that make up the trinty god. This
is the pagan idea of a trinity of gods. Their three most important gods
were ...[text shortened]... ONE Spirit is shared by all THREE; but
only ONE of the persons has a visible body.
Originally posted by galveston75Yes I get your exampleand the answer is No. But my understanding of the
You didn't get my example at all! Oh well I tried.
But you can twist and turn and rearange your trinity anyway you want my friend. It was something taught by pagan nations before Jesus ever came to earth. The same pagan nations that God detested and warned his people to never even eat a meal wth. Was never believed in any form by God's people the Isrea ...[text shortened]... .....
I hope you read the links I posted earlier. If that's not enough I can post more.
Originally posted by RJHindsSo you have your own version? Is it the same or different then others here or do that have their versions too?
Yes I get your exampleand the answer is No. But my understanding of the
Trinity Doctrine is different from the way you see it.
Originally posted by galveston75No, I do not have my own version. I am referring to the same
So you have your own version? Is it the same or different then others here or do that have their versions too?
It would seem if it were true all the "versions" would be no versions at all but one truth on the matter.
Jesus himself said one of the signs of his true followers would be the "unity" in beliefs that theywould all have. I sure don't see tha ...[text shortened]... n the trinity. And...not one of them have ever explained it to me in the same way. Hum?????
Originally posted by RJHindsWell I hate to spill the beans here but they do not all beleive it in the same degree or concept and not even among the same churches.
No, I do not have my own version. I am referring to the same
trinity doctine of the Roman Catholic Church, the Southern Baptist
Church, the United Methodist Church, the Lutherern Church, the
Presbyterian Church, and the Greek Orthodox Church, but not like
the Oneness Pentecostal Church.
Originally posted by galveston75The Trinity doctine is the same. But not all members understand
Well I hate to spill the beans here but they do not all beleive it in the same degree or concept and not even among the same churches.
As I've mentioned before a vast majority of JW's came out of those churches and were taught the trinity and I know first hand not only by what they say but by my mothers own words as she was raised baptist. She was neve ...[text shortened]... that."
You should do more research on the teachings of that "Mystery of the Trinity."
Originally posted by RJHindsOkee dokee..You just keep believing what your church tells you...Have fun while keeping your eyes wide shut.
The Trinity doctine is the same. But not all members understand
what it says, just as you Jehovah's Witnessess do not understand
it. You try to make God a simple being that is easy for you to
understand. But God is much more complex than any human being.
God's way is higher than our way, the Holy Bible says. He is a
much higher being than we are, a ...[text shortened]... y, but the trinity doctrine is the best
theory to explain what the Holy Bible says about God.