07 Sep 09
Originally posted by galveston75http://www.stmarymagdalen.org/Sacraments/WhyGo.htm
Also another BIG thing the Cathoilics do is confession which is not Bible based and is infact of pagan origin. "The Catholic Encyclo. P.58 & 1967 Vol 11 P 75.
And the Bible again says it's only thru Jesus that one can ask for forgiveness of sins. No imperfect human can do that.
Matt 6:6-12, Ps 32:5, 1John 2:1.
Also according to The US Catholic Ma ...[text shortened]... ly "one" father in the heavens.
How do the Catholics possibly justify these actions?
07 Sep 09
Originally posted by daniel58That is all fine and dandy but again The Catholic "Fathers" are stepping ahead of the Bible, putting themselves up on pedistles along side Jesus and making themselves something that only Jesus can be. Jesus not once ever said to go to another human first, middle or last in their prayers to God.
http://www.stmarymagdalen.org/Sacraments/WhyGo.htm
Daniel you need to get a better understanding of the Bible, do lots and lots of historical reasearch on the Catholic church and see just how many things they do that is not in accordance with the Bible.
Most religions do miss the truth to one degree or another, but the Catholics are way up there. I do not mean to be offensive here Daniel. You know I like you and I wish you the best.
07 Sep 09
Originally posted by menace71What do you mean "not understand the mass"? 😕
Also not understand the mass? When going to the house of God it's to listen and learn. Dude my Mom knew nothing of the bible because of her catholic up bringing. She was taught that the father would interpret scripture for you. The bible was not for laity. When I finally read scripture to her from 1 John she started crying. The Catholic Church is all about ...[text shortened]... & thoughts. Better not have your own thoughts! Poor Galileo what a fine example.
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07 Sep 09
Originally posted by galveston75Unless you yourself have been to a confession, you are not likely to understand it. Throughout the whole confession, the penitent is encouraged to direct his confession to God. The penitent says 'O my God, I am so sorry I have sinned against you'. The penitent does not is not praying to anyone else than God. What is controversial is the Catholic belief that the priest has the power to absolve. There is nothing controversial about confession itself (there are many instances in the NT). What Protestants generally dispute is that the priest absolves the person of these confessed sins.
That is all fine and dandy but again The Catholic "Fathers" are stepping ahead of the Bible, putting themselves up on pedistles along side Jesus and making themselves something that only Jesus can be. Jesus not once ever said to go to another human first, middle or last in their prayers to God.
Daniel you need to get a better understanding of the Bible ...[text shortened]... there. I do not mean to be offensive here Daniel. You know I like you and I wish you the best.
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07 Sep 09
Originally posted by menace71Most Catholics do not attend the Latin Mass. In my state, which has I think 200 churches, there are only three which offer it regularly (but they must also offer English). The Mass in the vernacular differs from the Tridentine Mass, which Daniel described. There will three Scripture readings, one from the OT, one from the writings of St. Paul or sometimes another epistle, and then a gospel reading. Catholics should now be very familiar with the Scriptures.
Also not understand the mass? When going to the house of God it's to listen and learn. Dude my Mom knew nothing of the bible because of her catholic up bringing. She was taught that the father would interpret scripture for you. The bible was not for laity. When I finally read scripture to her from 1 John she started crying. The Catholic Church is all about ...[text shortened]... & thoughts. Better not have your own thoughts! Poor Galileo what a fine example.
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In any case, the Latin Mass is not difficult to follow. There are many formulas which you will remember and which will be used througout the Mass. Churches will also offer Missal books which will contain the translation. It is also noteworthy that whereas the Roman Catholic Church has generally abandoned Latin, its official language, many other churches cling to their traditional language (such as the Greek Orthodox Church in which Masses are often conducted in an antiquated version of Greek.)
07 Sep 09
Originally posted by Conrau KThanks for the elaboration on the Catholic service & Mass. I even understand the confession part. I think it's as I said Catholics come in all shapes & colors. Running the gambit from liberal to conservative.
Most Catholics do not attend the Latin Mass. In my state, which has I think 200 churches, there are only three which offer it regularly (but they must also offer English). The Mass in the vernacular differs from the Tridentine Mass, which Daniel described. There will three Scripture readings, one from the OT, one from the writings of St. Paul or sometimes a ...[text shortened]... he Greek Orthodox Church in which Masses are often conducted in an antiquated version of Greek.)
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08 Sep 09
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Originally posted by menace71No; it is the procession of the Blessed Sacrament in which the Eucharist is carried in a golden monstrance (the spiky thing that the priest holds). You can see it in this picture:
What are these pics? Mary worshipers?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File: Procession_with_blessed_sacrament_1.jpg
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Originally posted by menace71Yes, but you also say your mother knew nothing of the Bible because of her Catholic upbringing. This sounds strange to me, because Catholic mass includes reading passages of the Bible. Latin Mass is extremely uncommon nowadays. I didn't even know it still existed.
I responding to Daniel58. He said we are not to understand the Mass. I said I don't understand it. 🙂
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