Is the Noah's Ark story true?

Originally posted by KellyJay
"And to put ALL species " it did not say all species.
Kelly

to put ALL species he said he did, not All species in the world. That would take a 10000x bigger ship.

Dinosaurs included....

You know, sometimes I talk about the things some people believe here to my coleagues/friends and they think I'm making it up. They say it's impossible someone can believe that.

Originally posted by KellyJay
"And to put ALL species " it did not say all species.
Kelly

Two of every "kind". If you've got the time and the patience

YouTube

As I've mentioned before "kind" animal, means a for example, a dog, who later spawned wolves, hyenas, yorkshire terriers, coyotes, jackals....etc. This reduces the number of animals on the ark, but not below absurdity. Yet it creates another problem, super evolution. Meaning that within 6000 years or so a "kind" of animal became a common ancestor to thousands of species. It gets sillier and sillier. Don't get me started on the flood creating the grand canyon in a couple of weeks.

Originally posted by serigado
to put ALL species he said he did, not All species in the world. That would take a 10000x bigger ship.

Dinosaurs included....

You know, sometimes I talk about the things some people believe here to my coleagues/friends and they think I'm making it up. They say it's impossible someone can believe that.

I suggest you read it for yourself than you will not have to make
stuff up to your colleagues and friends.
Kelly

Originally posted by abnoxio
Two of every "kind". If you've got the time and the patience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNHpTezYR_o

As I've mentioned before "kind" animal, means a for example, a dog, who later spawned wolves, hyenas, yorkshire terriers, coyotes, jackals....etc. This reduces the number of animals on the ark, but not below absurdity. Yet it creates another problem, ...[text shortened]... lier. Don't get me started on the flood creating the grand canyon in a couple of weeks.

You don't find getting life from non-life, having that simple life form
once started change over time through evolution mutate into the vast
array of life we see today, without any plan, or purpose, or design
involved at all? The only differences we are talking about is how long
it really takes and the starting point.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Just a few chapters earlier in the same book, God spoke and there
was light, stars, and on and on. You think the God who could create
the universe by just the power of His Word would have a issue
rounding up a few animals and getting them into a ship, dinosaurs
included?
Kelly

So how big a boat would that have to be? Especially since he would have to keep the T-Rex's away from the goats and bunnies and store enough food to feed the Triceratops' and the bunnies.

It would have to be structurally sound enough to hold dinosaurs and all other animals and float.

Now we know god didn't build the ark - since the story says that he just ordered Noah to do it, right?

Given that, how big would it need to be and how long would it take them to build it, especially considering there's only one grown man and thee children building it?

Also, considering this flood killed everything else on earth, why haven't we found archeological evidence of a whole host of animals dying all at the same time?

Originally posted by abnoxio
Interesting question, it implies several things, one being that the lack of evidence is not proof of non-existence. Second it attempts to shift the burden of proof to me. In other words justify your non acceptance of what I consider proof. But I can answer this way; A event such as Noahs Ark and a global flood is so implausible to the point of absurdity that ...[text shortened]... ay. As of this writing your God is no more likely to exist than Prometheus, Dionysus, or Mithra.

Anyone can say they don't see evidence if there is nothing that they
want or except to see; you need to have some way to define what you
are looking for, if you don't have a clue your complaint about not
have evidence is meaningless.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I suggest you read it for yourself than you will not have to make
stuff up to your colleagues and friends.
Kelly

They are the ones that say I make things up, when I tell them there are people that believe men and dinosaurs coexisted.

Sometimes I just think you're making all this up.

It makes you look really stupid, anyone told you so before?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Anyone can say they don't see evidence if there is nothing that they
want or except to see; you need to have some way to define what you
are looking for, if you don't have a clue your complaint about not
have evidence is meaningless.
Kelly

What do you not see as evidence for Zeus, Santa Claus, or Huck Finn? You see the futility?

And you have revealed yourself in that last statement. You want, no need, to find evidence that Noah's Ark is true because that is your religion. So you are willing to accept what your itching ears want to hear.

Originally posted by PsychoPawn
So how big a boat would that have to be? Especially since he would have to keep the T-Rex's away from the goats and bunnies and store enough food to feed the Triceratops' and the bunnies.

It would have to be structurally sound enough to hold dinosaurs and all other animals and float.

Now we know god didn't build the ark - since the story says that ...[text shortened]... en't we found archeological evidence of a whole host of animals dying all at the same time?

The dimensions were written out look them up if you want; Noah would
not have had to keep any animal away from any other during the trip,
again you should read the full book before jumping to such
conclusions. There were not meat eaters before the flood, even man
wasn't suppose to eat meat before the flood though he may have in
the state of sin they were in. I would also put forward when the
animals went on to the Ark that more than likely younger ones went
one reducing the size required as well.
Kelly

Originally posted by abnoxio
What do you not see as evidence for Zeus, Santa Claus, or Huck Finn? You see the futility?

It is a matter of claims, one was made they didn't see evidence so I
asked what evidence did they want to see that they don't. If you wish
to debate Zeus, Santa Claus, or Huck Finn I suggest you start a new
thread and find some takers who care.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
The dimensions were written out look them up if you want; Noah would
not have had to keep any animal away from any other during the trip,
again you should read the full book before jumping to such
conclusions. There were not meat eaters before the flood, even man
wasn't suppose to eat meat before the flood though he may have in
the state of sin they we ...[text shortened]... the Ark that more than likely younger ones went
one reducing the size required as well.
Kelly

Can you reference in the Bible where it is stated that no one ate meat until after the flood? I know they didn't (Biblically) before the fall of Adam and Eve because death didn't enter the world until their sin (incidentally one reason for a 6000 year old earth). I honestly might have missed that one.

Originally posted by KellyJay
It is a matter of claims, one was made they didn't see evidence so I
asked what evidence did they want to see that they don't. If you wish
to debate Zeus, Santa Claus, or Huck Finn I suggest you start a new
thread and find some takers who care.
Kelly

Well if you have compelling evidence for Noah's Ark, I'd be willing to hear it. I've heard Kent Hovinds speech several times and Ken Hams as well. They're not convincing. Perhaps you have something that will convince me. As of this writing I have seen no evidence.

Originally posted by serigado
They are the ones that say I make things up, when I tell them there are people that believe men and dinosaurs coexisted.

Sometimes I just think you're making all this up.

It makes you look really stupid, anyone told you so before?

If I cared what you thought maybe it would matter to me, it is a matter
of faith. There are cave drawings of dinosaurs and I believe I recall
foot prints of man and dinosaurs as well being found together some
where but both of those do not prove anything, but it is evidence.
There are stories of dinosaurs being alive today, I think a dead one
was pulled up by a Japanese ship and cut loose due to smell a few
years ago. I believe Japan even had a stamp made for that creature.
I might try to look that one up for you and get you a link latter.
Kelly

Originally posted by abnoxio
Can you reference in the Bible where it is stated that no one ate meat until after the flood? I know they didn't (Biblically) before the fall of Adam and Eve because death didn't enter the world until their sin (incidentally one reason for a 6000 year old earth). I honestly might have missed that one.

Genesis 1

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:

30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for food: and it was so.

31 And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Genesis 1

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb yielding seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for food:

30 and to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life ...[text shortened]... made, and, behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

That was before sin entered the world. After Adam and Eve sinned death entered the world. That predates Noah's flood.