Is the trinity pagan ?

Originally posted by RJHinds
Jesus is also called "the good shepherd" and He likens Himself to "a mother hen." I think this is how 'everlasting Father" is meant to be taken and not that Jesus is actually a mother hen, a shepherd, lamb, or God the Father.

Yes, when Isaiah was inspired by the spirit to write "his name shall be Everlasting Father", I'm sure he meant to write "his name shall be hen"... but then he thought to himself you know what, I'm gonna change it up a bit.

Originally posted by checkbaiter
Can We “Pray” to Jesus Christ?

http://www.biblicalunitarian.com/articles/jesus-christ/can-we-pray-to-jesus-christ

Do you intend to post links or copy/paste large volumes of other people's work everytime you are replying to me ?

Originally posted by RJHinds
I would only be drawing a picture of Jesus within a bright light with angels worshipping and serving Him. How would you draw a picture of the body, soul, and spirit of man?

P.S. If I wished to distinguish the Father from the Son, I could make a bright light shaped like Jesus with Jesus sitting on the right side and the Holy Spirit as radiating light around the throne.

So Jesus would be beside Jesus?

Originally posted by galveston75
So Jesus would be beside Jesus?

Mighty God sat next to Almighty God.

As you believe both are in fact separate Gods in this respect, why would you have an issue with that imagery?

Would the trinity god look like this?

http://xc5.xanga.com/b86c227271733168093490/z127300658.jpg


Or this:

http://xff.xanga.com/ca7f834b42d30281559161/b224355613.jpg


Or this:

http://x2f.xanga.com/641c436028435168090658/z127298325.jpg


Here's a few more:

http://x39.xanga.com/d41c545146532167567072/m126849492.jpg

http://x2a.xanga.com/76ec7a3245731214130444/z167305872.jpg

http://x44.xanga.com/bd2c511363c32167838671/z127081912.jpg

http://x7c.xanga.com/fe0c610357131214180036/z167348342.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EBqE1nrwkh8/SwTHBZeArrI/AAAAAAAAAS4/b6P9FdzpKN0/s1600/206.jpg

http://x70.xanga.com/c8be032bc9532282691267/b225363625.jpg

http://images.rcg.org/rcg/images/lit/ttigtio-trimurti_large.gif

http://xe3.xanga.com/868c511727432167840794/z127083603.jpg

http://www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/ShivaTrinity.jpg

http://www.sullivan-county.com/images/trinity.jpg

Originally posted by divegeester
[b]Mighty God sat next to Almighty God.

As you believe both are in fact separate Gods in this respect, why would you have an issue with that imagery?[/b]

The one referred to in the bible as a mighty God is Jesus.
The one referred to in the Bible as Almighty God is Jehovah.

So Jesus sits next to his Father. Jesus cannot sit next to himself...........

Originally posted by galveston75
The one referred to in the bible as a mighty God is Jesus.
The one referred to in the Bible as Almighty God is Jehovah.

So Jesus sits next to his Father. Jesus cannot sit next to himself...........

I'm just taking the opportunity to point out that whilst you are busy criticising the trinitarians, you actually believe in 2 Gods: the mighty and the almighty as you state here.

robbie carrobie has confirmed that the JW position is that you have 2 "saviours" (Jesus and Jehovah); and you have confirmed that you have 2 "Gods" (Jesus and Jehovah).

I don't think you are in a position to throw stones at the trinitarians do you?

Originally posted by divegeester
I'm just taking the opportunity to point out that whilst you are busy criticising the trinitarians, you actually believe in 2 Gods: the mighty and the almighty as you state here.

robbie carrobie has confirmed that the JW position is that you have 2 "saviours" (Jesus and Jehovah); and you have confirmed that you have 2 "Gods" (Jesus and Jehovah).

I don't think you are in a position to throw stones at the trinitarians do you?

If you were able to grasp the explinations I and Robbie have given, you would not be posting this responce.
I've responded to you all that I will on this subject.............

Originally posted by galveston75
If you were able to grasp the explinations I and Robbie have given, you would not be posting this responce.

I apologise that my limited intellect does not enable me to understand the complexities of your 2 God - 2 saviour construct.

Do you think if you were more intelligent you could understand the trinitarian viewpoint?

Originally posted by divegeester
Yes, when Isaiah was inspired by the spirit to write [b]"his name shall be Everlasting Father", I'm sure he meant to write "his name shall be hen"... but then he thought to himself you know what, I'm gonna change it up a bit.[/b]

His name is Yahshua or Jesus. It is not "everlasting Father" or any of the other names Isaiah gives. Isaiah was giving names to describe His character and I was just giving other examples from the Holy Bible that do the same thing. Jesus gave that example of the mother hen, Himself.

Originally posted by galveston75
So Jesus would be beside Jesus?

We are told that Jesus is the express image of God. So I would prefer my first picture, but if I had to compromise the second idea might work. But, no Jesus would not be beside Jesus.

Originally posted by RJHinds
His name is Yahshua or Jesus. It is not "everlasting Father" or any of the other names Isaiah gives. Isaiah was giving names to describe His character and I was just giving other examples from the Holy Bible that do the same thing. Jesus gave that example of the mother hen, Himself.

Here is the scripture from the KJ

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Are you saying that Jesus is not the "child" not the "son"?

or that none of these titles/descriptors/names are actually attributable to him?

Originally posted by galveston75
The one referred to in the bible as a mighty God is Jesus.
The one referred to in the Bible as Almighty God is Jehovah.

So Jesus sits next to his Father. Jesus cannot sit next to himself...........

You don't seem to get that Jehovah is the name given to Moses by the Angel of the Lord (messenger of the Lord). We have told you many times that this is the Son of God appearing as this messenger. This was not the Father.

P.S. No man has seen the Father at any time.

Originally posted by galveston75
Would the trinity god look like this?

http://xc5.xanga.com/b86c227271733168093490/z127300658.jpg


Or this:

http://xff.xanga.com/ca7f834b42d30281559161/b224355613.jpg


Or this:

http://x2f.xanga.com/641c436028435168090658/z127298325.jpg


Here's a few more:

http://x39.xanga.com/d41c545146532167567072/m126849492.jpg

http://x2a.xan ...[text shortened]... ww.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/ShivaTrinity.jpg

http://www.sullivan-county.com/images/trinity.jpg

It seems to me that you are using pagan imagery. I do not like any of them.

Originally posted by RJHinds
It seems to me that you are using pagan imagery. I do not like any of them.

Do you think Galveston was asking if you "liked" the pictures?