11 Mar 05
Originally posted by lilnicky123For many reasons, dear nicky. One because science doesn't contradict it, and in fact supports it. Another because God signed it with prophecies (telling of the future beforehand--he is in at least two dimensions of time, having created our single dimension of time in the Big Bang--). Another because I asked Him into my life and He came.
how the hell do u know the bible is true. maybe its just a load of crap. darfius u kinda sound like bush
I'm not aware what you mean by me sounding like Bush. Though we're both Texan and proud. 😉
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusSo you are saying that he is now dead? God is dead? If he was Jesus, the son of God and God and God is supposedly in existence now, then he didn't die. One cannot have it both ways. I haven't heard anyone say (other than atheists) that God is dead!
Jesus is both the Son of God and God incarnate. It's both the difficult and simple concept that is the Trinity. One God, three forms.
11 Mar 05
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Originally posted by DarfiusSurely some of the passengers aboard those hijacked jets on September 11, 2001 must have been devout Christians. The ones on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania (if not some of those on the previous three aircraft) must have known the evil intentions of the hijackers. I can well imagine them praying that God would spare their lives.
... How can I pray for something when I am used to the laws of physics which I adhere to everyday? However, a combination of strong in faith (but not psychotic) is enough to do anything in the name of God through Jesus Christ...
But the laws of physics and biophysics won out over faith. There were no survivors amongst the passengers.
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Originally posted by Darfius[/b]Science does not support the existence of God. Show me an experiment capable of being repeated that demonstrates the existence of God.
[b]For many reasons, dear nicky. One because science doesn't contradict it, and in fact supports it.
I'm sure you have told us many times that God is not capable of proof. God is a matter of faith and faith alone.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserJesus rose from the dead 3 days later. Tell me, do you know what it is you deny?
So you are saying that he is now dead? God is dead? If he was Jesus, the son of God and God and God is supposedly in existence now, then he didn't die. One cannot have it both ways. I haven't heard anyone say (other than atheists) that God is dead!
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by MaustrauserI've never made that claim. I would appreciate it if you quit putting words in my mouth. The proof is there for all to see. It takes a leap of faith, but it's akin to believing that you'll make it to work tomorrow morning.
Science does not support the existence of God. Show me an experiment capable of being repeated that demonstrates the existence of God.
I'm sure you have told us many times that God is not capable of proof. God is a matter of faith and faith alone.[/b]
Science supports the Bible, which supports God.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by Paul DiracActually, free will won out over God treating His creations as animals. The hijackers wanted to kill those people. Who is God to violate the free will He gave us all?
Surely some of the passengers aboard those hijacked jets on September 11, 2001 must have been devout Christians. The ones on the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania (if not some of those on the previous three aircraft) must have known the evil intentions of the hijackers. I can well imagine them praying that God would spare their lives.
But the laws of physics and biophysics won out over faith. There were no survivors amongst the passengers.
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by DarfiusHow about when it is just a single human involved? If a lightning storm is striking an isolated mountaintop, and the only person on the mountain is a Christian who is praying to survive, does God always respect that person's will?
Why should some people's free will count more than others? Would that be a just God?
11 Mar 05
Originally posted by Paul DiracNow how exactly would I know? I've neither been in such a scenario nor witnesses someone who has.
How about when it is just a single human involved? If a lightning storm is striking an isolated mountaintop, and the only person on the mountain is a Christian who is praying to survive, does God always respect that person's will?
Please ask questions that are possible to answer. Strawmen aren't fair.
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You know, if in the future I am ever obligated to take the pro side in a debate called "Does the Tooth Fairy answer petitionary prayer?", I could just copy & paste your answers, and then replace God/Christ with Tooth Fairy, and voila!
You kindly extended an invitation to me to come over to your side. I return the favor. Sometime when you are lying in bed, unable to sleep, I challenge you to really think deeply about the excuses you (and some of the writers of the Bible as well) make for your deity. Come on over to the side of skepticism, Darfius. The water is fine.