25 Jan 09
Originally posted by whodeyWho cares ? He seems like a decent man. He did attend a lunatic church in Chicago, but I think it must have been for pure entertainement purposes. No Harvard guy could sit through that stuff and not be laughing inside as to the total insanity of the rant coming from the pulpit.
Obama a Christian?
Discuss.
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by buckkyWell, one response has come home to roost, any others? 😛
Who cares ? He seems like a decent man. He did attend a lunatic church in Chicago, but I think it must have been for pure entertainement purposes. No Harvard guy could sit through that stuff and not be laughing inside as to the total insanity of the rant coming from the pulpit.
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by BadwaterAh, but my friend, we live in a racist country, and an Islamophobic country, where it does in fact matter. Obama is a Christian. But Hillary started the rumor (and it was picked up by McCain/Palin later) that Obama was Muslim and therefore un-American. Now, McCain also destroyed both arguments by the following flawed logic.
Is Obama black? Is he white? Does it matter?
Rhetorical question. Same as whether he's Christian.
1. Barack Obama is a Muslim.
2. Thus, Barack Obama is an Arab.
3. Barack Obama is therefore an America-hater.
4. Barack Obama's Reverend hates America.
Every point is severely wrong. But race does matter, to a huge extent, in American elections. Let it never be said that racism is dead. It isn't.
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by buckkyI care. I wouldn't knowingly vote for an non-Christian.
Who cares ? He seems like a decent man. He did attend a lunatic church in Chicago, but I think it must have been for pure entertainement purposes. No Harvard guy could sit through that stuff and not be laughing inside as to the total insanity of the rant coming from the pulpit.
Back to the point, only God knows his heart but I think he's a Chtistian.
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by scherzoIslamophobic country? Well yeah! What religion were all of those guys who hijacked planes on 9-11? Could someone please refresh my memory? Which religion's clerics and imams daily spew hatred and death to America? Which relgion's imams have nicknamed the U.S.A. the Great Satan?
Ah, but my friend, we live in a racist country, and an Islamophobic country, where it does in fact matter. Obama is a Christian. But Hillary started the rumor (and it was picked up by McCain/Palin later) that Obama was Muslim and therefore un-American. Now, McCain also destroyed both arguments by the following flawed logic.
1. Barack Obama is a Muslim.
2 ...[text shortened]... , to a huge extent, in American elections. Let it never be said that racism is dead. It isn't.
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by chappy1I think Amerca became more islamophobic at the event of WTC then before.
Islamophobic country? Well yeah! What religion were all of those guys who hijacked planes on 9-11? Could someone please refresh my memory? Which religion's clerics and imams daily spew hatred and death to America? Which relgion's imams have nicknamed the U.S.A. the Great Satan?
The WTC terrorist was also all men. Does that tell us that America is man-haters?
25 Jan 09
Originally posted by FabianFnasIt called narrrowing it down FF.
I think Amerca became more islamophobic at the event of WTC then before.
The WTC terrorist was also all men. Does that tell us that America is man-haters?
People
Muslims
Fanatical Muslims
Suicidal Fanatical Muslims.
Suicidal Fanatical Muslims who want to kill Americans
Its the last category that Americans want to kill.
There is nothing wrong with being Islamophobic if it means being more careful of a group that preaches hatred and death to Americans.
25 Jan 09
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Originally posted by Rajk999To be islamo-phobic is that you have an irrational fear of every muslem, right (Compare with spider-phbic, that you don't care if it is poisonous or not, you just don't like them, even the totally harmless ones). If you are islamo-phobic and you see someone that is a moslem, has a moslem name, or coming from a moslem country, even look moslemish, then you get a irrational state of fear or hatred. Many americans are islamophobic in this sence. Even moslem children after the WTC-event are the target of hatred. That's irrational, that's islamophobic behaviour.
It called narrrowing it down FF.
People
Muslims
Fanatical Muslims
Suicidal Fanatical Muslims.
Suicidal Fanatical Muslims who want to kill Americans
Its the last category that Americans want to kill.
There is nothing wrong with being Islamophobic if it means being more careful of a group that preaches hatred and death to Americans.
Islamophobia is a mentally state. It can be treated. It's never a good condition. It's irrational.
I say that terrorists are always bad. Then it doesn't matter if they are muslem, christian, nor jewish terrorists. They are always bad. In every sense. If terrorist-phobia is an irrational mentally state or not, I let this question sstay open.
But this is a fact: Terrorist always are sprung from fundamentalists. Educate fundamentalists, and the risque of terrorists should go down.
"There is nothing wrong with being Islamophobic"? Yes it is! You can never tell if a muslem is a terrorist or not. You can, in the same sense, never tell if a christian is a good one or a bad one, just to look at him/her. Yeah, there is every wrong to be islamophobic. But it can be treated, as any other phobia.