1. Standard memberRJHinds
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    04 Jul '15 12:14
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    And common sense trumps both.
    If only you had some. 😏
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    04 Jul '15 12:21
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    If only you had some. 😏
    If my 'sense' was more 'common' the world would be a much more evolved place to live in.

    😏
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    04 Jul '15 12:27
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    If my 'sense' was more 'common' the world would be a much more evolved place to live in.

    😏
    Thank God it is not. 😏
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    04 Jul '15 18:20
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Thank God it is not. 😏
    Thank who now?
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    04 Jul '15 19:16
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    No, only really studied the Vedas on a superficial level. In fact i think i only did one module on Hinduism in my final year. (Admitting that of course will make Dasa's day). Christianity and Judaism (unsurprisingly) formed the major bulk of my studies.

    Labeling Dasa and his religion as 'dishonest' in purely in response (and exasperation) of him r ...[text shortened]... te of his own medicine. I hope he finds it bitter. (If not in this life, then perhaps the next).
    No, I get all that, I was just wondering what insight you may have gleaned from studies, and if they included the Vedas. I realize that anything in-depth would be a separate course, probably elective, especially in the West where Hinduism is a rather tiny percentile among 'chosen religions'.

    He's been taken to task about his use of the word 'dishonest' in this forum quite often. He probably uses it to avoid just simply calling all of us 'liars'.
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    04 Jul '15 19:18
    Originally posted by Dasa
    Yes there is hell.

    But people are not sent there for eternity.

    Once again the soul is in a spiritual sleep, whilst his material ethereal body is experiencing an illusionary hell whilst he is made aware of his past sins.

    After he has had his hellish learning experience, he will be sent to his next incarnation to take birth according to his specific karma.
    So, no judgement, never judgement.

    No responsibility for sin. Typical.
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    04 Jul '15 19:23
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    So, no judgement, never judgement.

    No responsibility for sin. Typical.
    And no saviour.
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    04 Jul '15 19:241 edit
    Originally posted by Dasa
    You foolish man.....

    There is no endless re-births at all, but any person can return back to Godhead at once (if he re-kindles his lost love for God)
    If one's soul can eventually return to 'Godhead', then can the irredeemable soul finally go to 'Anti-Godhead"? Or is he just slapped on the wrist and sent back time and again to harm other souls again? This sounds like the irredeemable ones would build up in the world, then, eventually making any 'Godly' soul's journey even more difficult. Great religion you got there, where sin is tolerated forever, with only good souls eventually leaving the 'meat-grinder'.

    This also doesn't sound like a very high regard for life, either, as you claim to have. A system where, over time, it is more and more likely that other souls you run across, regardless of species, are evil.
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    04 Jul '15 19:30
    Originally posted by josephw
    And no saviour.
    Well, I guess they can always claim that everyone is their own 'savior'.

    But yeah, I know. There seems to be no hope at all in this system.
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    04 Jul '15 19:55
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    No, I get all that, I was just wondering what insight you may have gleaned from studies, and if they included the Vedas. I realize that anything in-depth would be a separate course, probably elective, especially in the West where Hinduism is a rather tiny percentile among 'chosen religions'.

    He's been taken to task about his use of the word 'dishonest' in this forum quite often. He probably uses it to avoid just simply calling all of us 'liars'.
    He does appear though to have dropped the word 'dishonest' recently. - Touch wood. (Hind's head will suffice). Perhaps he got the message.

    Outside of the monotheistic religions, i know a lot more about Buddhism than i do Hinduism. (Though it also barely featured in my studies). In case you're interested, have dug out a list of the modules i studied over the 3 years:

    Education in Context
    Philosophy, Education and Social change
    Religion and Theology
    Horizons of Theology
    Workshop Studies 1
    Education and television
    Development and Socialisation
    Making sense of the Old Testament
    Cults, Sects and Churches in 20th C Britain
    Workshop Studies 2
    History of Childhood and schooling 1820-1970
    Career Development
    Hebrew Poetry
    Christian Ethics
    Islam
    International Perspectives on Education
    Understanding Judaism
    Theology in Context
    English Reformation
    Education, Equality and Social Justice
    Rights and Persons
    Islam and Christianity
    Dissertation
    Educational Management
    Educational Policy and Politics
    Amos
    Christianity and Other Religions
    Approaches to Adolescence
    Religion and Society in 19th C England.
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    04 Jul '15 21:54
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    He does appear though to have dropped the word 'dishonest' recently. - Touch wood. (Hind's head will suffice). Perhaps he got the message.

    Outside of the monotheistic religions, i know a lot more about Buddhism than i do Hinduism. (Though it also barely featured in my studies). In case you're interested, have dug out a list of the modules i studie ...[text shortened]... stianity and Other Religions
    Approaches to Adolescence
    Religion and Society in 19th C England.
    Since these all fall under some rather all-encompassing concept of "Theology", there seems little here that is specific, and so would I be right in assuming this was at a conventional college and not under any specific religion's auspices (as, for example, a 'seminary' )? And what was your religious thinking before attending? Same as now?

    Also, these "Workshop Studies", were these basically discussion groups (I imagine a "workshop" to be a 'community' effort type of thing)? If so, this seems to be of use before coming to this forum. 🙂
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    04 Jul '15 22:08
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    If one's soul can eventually return to 'Godhead', then can the irredeemable soul finally go to 'Anti-Godhead"? Or is he just slapped on the wrist and sent back time and again to harm other souls again? This sounds like the irredeemable ones would build up in the world, then, eventually making any 'Godly' soul's journey even more difficult. Great religion ...[text shortened]... me, it is more and more likely that other souls you run across, regardless of species, are evil.
    "evil" or your relatives. Apparently many Hindus avoid stepping on bugs and whatnot because that bug could be their dead relative
  13. Standard memberRJHinds
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    05 Jul '15 05:04
    Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
    He does appear though to have dropped the word 'dishonest' recently. - Touch wood. (Hind's head will suffice). Perhaps he got the message.

    Outside of the monotheistic religions, i know a lot more about Buddhism than i do Hinduism. (Though it also barely featured in my studies). In case you're interested, have dug out a list of the modules i studie ...[text shortened]... stianity and Other Religions
    Approaches to Adolescence
    Religion and Society in 19th C England.
    That is your problem. You are not reading and studying the Holy Bible, but books on philosophy, religion, and anything but.
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    05 Jul '15 05:14
    Originally posted by karoly aczel
    "evil" or your relatives. Apparently many Hindus avoid stepping on bugs and whatnot because that bug could be their dead relative
    That just shows how ridiculous this belief is if one becomes afraid to step on a bug.
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    05 Jul '15 07:13
    Originally posted by Suzianne
    Since these all fall under some rather all-encompassing concept of "Theology", there seems little here that is specific, and so would I be right in assuming this was at a conventional college and not under any specific religion's auspices (as, for example, a 'seminary' )? And what was your religious thinking before attending? Same as now?

    Also, ...[text shortened]... ommunity' effort type of thing)? If so, this seems to be of use before coming to this forum. 🙂
    Yes, a conventional college, Cheltenham in Gloustershire.

    Enjoyed Religious Studies at A level which is why i went on to study it a degree level. People are passionate about politics and religion (a passion you just don't get in geography or French) and the discussions were as appealing to be then as these spirituality forums are to be now. - My atheist viewpoint however has remained unchanged. If anything it was solidified by my studies as i became more aware of the contradictions and fragmentation of belief. Every man and his dog claimed to hold the truth, even though close examination highlighted flaws and absurdities. - That said, i have developed an admiration (and perhaps a little jealousy) for people who seem to have a genuine faith that gives meaning to their life.

    In regards to the Workshops, i have no memory whatsoever about their contents. (It was 20 years ago!) but think they were in relation to my minor subject, Educational Studies. (Was initially planning on becoming an RE Teacher).
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