Originally posted by EladarDid you ever answer my question about who Jesus died for? Did Jesus only die for a
If you want to see Jesus' explanation as to why he taught in parables when instructing the masses read Matthew 13:11-15.
Notice he was not talking to Pharasees, but the people.
select few, or did He die for us all?
Originally posted by EladarI agree He did die for all, I also agree only a few answer God's call.
Net result is that only a few will make use of it.
So shouldn't we share the gospel to all, since Jesus died for all?
Shouldn't Jesus' be given the chance to call and receive those who would turn to Him?
It isn't like either of us know who will repent, and if Jesus loves the sinners shouldn't we?
No one believed Saul would repent and serve the Lord at the time and look what Jesus
did with him!
Originally posted by KellyJaySharing the gospel in part is shooting down herecies and clearing up misconceptions.
I agree He did die for all, I also agree only a few answer God's call.
So shouldn't we share the gospel to all, since Jesus died for all?
Shouldn't Jesus' be given the chance to call and receive those who would turn to Him?
It isn't like either of us know who will repent, and if Jesus loves the sinners shouldn't we?
No one believed Saul would repent and serve the Lord at the time and look what Jesus
did with him!
Somewhere in there God makes a choice as well.
Originally posted by chaney3There seem to be many Christians who are similarly "too selfish". They are driven by greed and self-centeredness.
In the verses you quoted from Matthew 25, I do not go out of my way to do any of it. Likely because I have been too lazy, too selfish, or both.
I'm not exactly sure why I am posting this. Maybe a confession of some kind?
As Suzianne recently wrote:
Republicans are about as far as you can get from the teaching of Jesus. I would find it nearly impossible to be both a Republican and a Christian. They are antitheses.
And she's right. Read through the quotes of Jesus in my previous post and compare it to the Republican platform. It's striking how far away it is from the teachings of Jesus. It's a travesty that so many Christians support it.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneYes you get it. You are a liberal who speaks for Satan but claims to be a Christian. Or at least claims understansing of the Bible.
Listen I get it. The commandments of Jesus are contrary to your beliefs, so they are meaningless to you. As a result, you are desperately trying to deflect from this fact.
You play this same game every time that you are unable to defend your position.
Originally posted by EladarYes, He choose to send Jesus to come and die for sinners.
Sharing the gospel in part is shooting down herecies and clearing up misconceptions.
Somewhere in there God makes a choice as well.
There were heretics and a like standing around His cross, but He asked God to forgive.
What I fear about you here is that you, not God are picking and choosing those worthy of
God's grace through Jesus Christ. That is not saying there are those here who will without
a doubt miss the only chance they have to come to Christ, but if they don't come and it
had something to do with you...are you not worried about blood being on your hands?
Originally posted by KellyJayToo much predistination stuff in the Bible to deny that aspect too.
Yes, He choose to send Jesus to come and die for sinners.
There were heretics and a like standing around His cross, but He asked God to forgive.
What I fear about you here is that you, not God are picking and choosing those worthy of
God's grace through Jesus Christ. That is not saying there are those here who will without
a doubt miss the only chance t ...[text shortened]... come and it
had something to do with you...are you not worried about blood being on your hands?
Originally posted by EladarYou think God will force anyone to come to Him against their will? I do believe none of us will go to God without God calling us, we love our sins to much.
How much is our choice and how much is God's choice.
I believe the way was made for us all so we should reach out to all so if there is anyone whom Jesus died for can be turned back to God, for Jesus sake we should reach out to all.
Originally posted by KellyJayI think God will show favor to who he wants to show favor and harden who he wishes to harden.
You think God will force anyone to come to Him against their will? I do believe none of us will go to God without God calling us, we love our sins to much.
I believe the way was made for us all so we should reach out to all so if there is anyone whom Jesus died for can be turned back to God, for Jesus sake we should reach out to all.
Don't you?
Originally posted by EladarYes, but that is all on God who also has a history of showing mercy to those that don't deserve it. My point being it's up to God not me or you to pick those We should share about His grace through the gospel.
I think God will show favor to who he wants to show favor and harden who he wishes to harden.
Don't you?