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Originally posted by @rajk999Yeah sorry I meant it for him.
Galveston asked that not me .
Originally posted by @rajk999Yeah sorry I meant it for him.
Galveston asked that not me .
Originally posted by @sonshipSAVED through faith
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God." (Eph. 2:8)
Originally posted by @sonshipSo I have been saved. YES
So I have been saved.
Yet I am also BEING saved.
And eventually I WILL BE saved.
Originally posted by @galveston75I think you should just stick to the scriptural examples you asked for and which I provided.
So a couple questions....
First If I went to the middle of China and told anyone that would listen a quick lesson on Jesus and said I'm here to see you get saved and explained all you have to do is simply accept Jesus as your savior, they are in the club and have nothing to worry about? Because this in a nut shell is what is being said here by "the sa ...[text shortened]... d of your sins, what happens when you sin again? Do you have to restart the whole process again?
Originally posted by @galveston75
"And the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly, and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ." (1 Thess. 5:23)
Ok lets look at this first?
Has Jesus come as you believe he will?
If so, as you believe, where is he?
" ... Jesus, Whom heaven must indeed receive until the times of the restoration of all things, of which God spoke through the mouth of His holy prophets from of old." (Acts 3:20c,21)
"And when He brings again the Firstborn into the inhabited earth, He says, And let all the angels of God worship Him." (Hebrews 1:6)
"For what is out hope or joy or crown of boasting before our Lord Jesus at His coming? Are not even you?" (1 Thess. 5:19)
"When He comes to be glorified in His saints and to be marveled at in all those who have believed ... in that day." (2 Thess. 1:10)
" ... the Spirit of reality, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not behold Him or know Him; but you know Him, because He abides with you and shall be in you.
I will not leave you as orphans; I am coming to you." (John 14:17,18)
"To whom God willed to make known what are the riches ofthe glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory." (Col. 1:27)
"But if Christ is IN YOU, though the body is dead because of sin, the [regenerated human] spirit is life because of righteousness." (Rom. 8:10)
"Test yourselves whether you are in the faith; prove yourselves, Or do you not realize about yourselves that Jesus Christ is in you, unless you are disapproved? (2 Cor. 13:5)
[b] "I am crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ who lives in me;
and the life which I now live in the flesh I live in faith, the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me." (Gal. 2:20)
"The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." (2 Tim. 4:22)
Originally posted by @divegeesterHey your the saved one here so you should have those answers.....
I think you should just stick to the scriptural examples you asked for and which I provided.
Originally posted by @galveston75????????????
Matthew 24:13 Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
13 but he who did endure to the end, he shall be saved;
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
Please explain?????
Originally posted by @galveston75Galveston75, you asked for some examples and I gave you a couple where clearly people were considered “saved”.
Hey your the saved one here so you should have those answers.....
Originally posted by @divegeesterOnly if your saved?
Are you talking to me Galveston75?
Originally posted by @secondsonSo do you still sin?
By their own admission both Rajk and galveston don't believe they are saved, and apparently don't know whether or not they will be saved until judgement day.
This poses several issues.
If salvation is the receiving of the gift of eternal life through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, then it is abundantly clear that neither Ra ...[text shortened]... t is no wonder they butcher the scriptures, and in Rajk's case explains why he hates Christians.