Originally posted by twhiteheadBoth in the Bible and Quran GOD didn't declare Judaism as a religion accepted from him. Judaism is a name given to the religion of Jews by people not GOD. In Quran Allah declare that from the beginning the only religion accepted from Allah is submission (Islam), which is the religion of all the prophets including Mosses. What happened is that after Mosses , Jews modified the religion to became Judaism. So in the context of Quran there is nothing called Judaism as a religion, and same for Christianity. Both words don't exist in Quran.
I do not understand what you are saying here. Can you expand on that a bit?
Originally posted by ahosyneyThe three Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity and Islam. It's funny to hear that the ancient Jews were Muslims. And you really believe this BS 😵
Both in the Bible and Quran GOD didn't declare Judaism as a religion accepted from him. Judaism is a name given to the religion of Jews by people not GOD. In Quran Allah declare that from the beginning the only religion accepted from Allah is submission (Islam), which is the religion of all the prophets including Mosses. What happened is that after Mosses , ...[text shortened]... hing called Judaism as a religion, and same for Christianity. Both words don't exist in Quran.
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Originally posted by black beetleThe Bible is the main source for both Christianity and in part Judiasm. Can you please tell me where could I find these two words (Christianity and Judaism) in the Bible?
The three Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity and Islam. It's funny to hear that the ancient Jews were Muslims. And you really believe this BS 😵
In all cases I'm talking about the Islamic view, and I don't see it hard to believe, it is the only thing that make sense. If there is only one true GOD then he will want only one religion not three.
Originally posted by ahosyneyDid I spoke about any kind of reference regarding the names of differ religions mentioned in the bible or in the koran?
The Bible is the main source for both Christianity and in part Judiasm. [b]Can you please tell me where could I find these two words (Christianity and Judaism) in the Bible?
In all cases I'm talking about the Islamic view, and I don't see it hard to believe, it is the only thing that make sense. If there is only one true GOD then he will want only one religion not three.[/b]
I said exctly what I said -but, as usually, when I adresses you face to face you prefer to start preaching or avoid the conversation instead of talking. And you seem to "forget" specific questions adressed to you, particularly when these questions reveal your religionism and your pathetic opinions about social issues, like adultery for starters, not to mention your religionist beliefs regarding Sariah.
So keep up living in the past😵
Originally posted by ahosyneyBut none of that explains your statement:
Both in the Bible and Quran GOD didn't declare Judaism as a religion accepted from him. Judaism is a name given to the religion of Jews by people not GOD. In Quran Allah declare that from the beginning the only religion accepted from Allah is submission (Islam), which is the religion of all the prophets including Mosses. What happened is that after Mosses , ...[text shortened]... hing called Judaism as a religion, and same for Christianity. Both words don't exist in Quran.
1- As I said before Jews and their religion Judiasm has nothing to do with GOD or Allah.
Clearly Jews and Judaism has a lot to do with both God and Islam, and Christianity does too. Obviously they are not all the same religion and obviously you believe that the other two religions have it wrong, but to say they have nothing to do with God or Allah just doesn't make sense.
The words 'Judaism' and 'Christianity' are English and so I wouldn't expect to find them in the Quran. But does it not mention the religions at all, or does it use different terms? What does it call their followers?
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Originally posted by ahosyneyLets see who cant read.
[b]1. Opinion not fact, and clearly a biased brainwashed one at that.
Again you still not able to read, Quran say that not me. If you still want to apply the Bible on Quran it is your problem. But Quran is clear in that: The only accepted religion is Islam, other than that has nothing to do with Allah.
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The Religion before Allah is ...[text shortened]... tches the book named Bible, the only book in the world, the bless the killing of Babies.[/b]
You said: There is no such a permanent promise like that in the Bible of the land of Palestine.
Then I showed where in the Bible the promise was - in Ezekiel 32:13
Then you said : "Did I say something different, I know what the Bible say. All what I said is that there is nothing like that in Quran, in Quran there is no forever. Please go read, it seems you need English lessons."
You need to relax..
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Originally posted by black beetleSir, the Bible is assumed by both religions to be the word of GOD, and if GOD in his word didn't say anything about Christianity as being a religion or Judaism as being a religion why me or anyone else believe so. These names are made by people and I don't care about what people say.
Did I spoke about any kind of reference regarding the names of differ religions mentioned in the bible or in the koran?
I said exctly what I said -but, as usually, when I adresses you face to face you prefer to start preaching or avoid the conversation instead of talking. And you seem to "forget" specific questions adressed to you, particularly when ...[text shortened]... rs, not to mention your religionist beliefs regarding Sariah.
So keep up living in the past😵
when I adresses you face to face you prefer to start preaching or avoid the conversation instead of talking.
I did answer your points and you don't understand, it is not my problem.
And you seem to "forget" specific questions adressed to you, particularly when these questions reveal your religionism
Did you ask a question?
You said that what I believe is not correct and I all what I said to show you that you are wrong.
and your pathetic opinions about social issues, like adultery for starters,
For me you opinions are pathetic too, will this make any difference, no!!
not to mention your religionist beliefs regarding Sariah.
What do you mean by that? Sariah !!!!!????
So keep up living in the past😵
I know where and when I'm living, but do you?
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Did I ever attack you personally or I'm not allowed to show my opinions just because you don't agree with them.
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Originally posted by ahosyneyAre you implying that the Kingdom of God will be taken from the Jews and given to the Muslims?
Can you explain this:
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(king James Version)(Matthew)
(Mt-21-42)(Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?)
(Mt-21-43)(Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you ...[text shortened]... OD will GOD keep his promises to that nation?
I hope to see some truthful answer here!!![/b]
There are many verses which say that Christ said He came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Some which say that He will be with the dsiciples wherever they are. Some which say He will be with the early church whereever they are set up.
Christ is saying that the Jews are not going to have a monopoly on the Kingdom of God as they previously thought, but the Kingdom will be given to ALL NATIONS, EVERYBODY. That means Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus etc all have a chance to share in it. The nation he referres to is a nation of Jews, and Paul defines a Jew as he who is one inwardly and not necessarily a descendent of Jacob.
Originally posted by twhiteheadOk I will make it clear:
But none of that explains your statement:
[b]1- As I said before Jews and their religion Judiasm has nothing to do with GOD or Allah.
Clearly Jews and Judaism has a lot to do with both God and Islam, and Christianity does too. Obviously they are not all the same religion and obviously you believe that the other two religions have it wrong, but to sa ...[text shortened]... n the religions at all, or does it use different terms? What does it call their followers?[/b]
Many believe that GOD first sent a religion called Judaism then followed by Christianity and then Islam.
What Islam say it was only one religion Islam, and those two other religions are not from GOD. Their origin was the same but Allah will not accept them.
The words 'Judaism' and 'Christianity' are English and so I wouldn't expect to find them in the Quran. But does it not mention the religions at all, or does it use different terms?
Of course I'm not talking about the English words, I'm talking about the Arabic ones:
Judaism in Arabic = Yahodia, and that word is not in Quran at all.
Christianity in Arabic = Massehia, and that word is not in Quran at all.
So the answer to your question is : Quran doesn't mention the religions at all.
What does it call their followers?
Jews in Arabic is - Yahood, and that is the name used in Quran to refer to them.
Chritians: The literal translation will be Massehey, which is preferred by Arab Christians, but that word is not Quran. Quran uses the word Nasara to generally refer to those who claim to follow Jesus.
Originally posted by ahosyneyEnjoy your religionism!
Sir, the Bible is assumed by both religions to be the word of GOD, and if GOD in his word didn't say anything about Christianity as being a religion or Judaism as being a religion why me or anyone else believe so. These names are made by people and I don't care about what people say.
[b]when I adresses you face to face you prefer to start preaching or av ...[text shortened]... ersonally or I'm not allowed to show my opinions just because you don't agree with them.
The questions I posed to you long ago are all remain unanswered. You may find them all at this site, at the thread "Taliban sinks to new low" (http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?subject=Taliban_sinks_to_new_low%2C_cruelty_on_new_level.&threadid=103580
Also, checking again that thread you will maybe see which way exactly you attempted to attack me with your religionism; to be frank, your beliefs are a straight attack to the humanity.
Originally posted by ahosyneyThanks, I've learnt something.
how important are they?
Like any other Hadith, a Muslim should believe in them. All Muslims believe in the second return of Jesus as Imam to Muslims. All Muslims believe that the return of Jesus is one of the Major signs of the end days. And all Muslims believe that the end of the Masekh Al Dajal, the anti christ , will be by the hands of Jesus.[/b]
Originally posted by black beetleEnjoy your religionism!
Enjoy your religionism!
The questions I posed to you long ago are all remain unanswered. You may find them all at this site, at the thread "Taliban sinks to new low" (http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?subject=Taliban_sinks_to_new_low%2C_cruelty_on_new_level.&threadid=103580
Also, checking again that thread you will maybe see which w ...[text shortened]... ack me with your religionism; to be frank, your beliefs are a straight attack to the humanity.
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The questions I posed to you long ago are all remain unanswered. You may find them all at this site, at the thread "Taliban sinks to new low" (http://www.redhotpawn.com/board/showthread.php?subject=Taliban_sinks_to_new_low%2C_cruelty_on_new_level.&threadid=103580
I don't see which questions I didn't answer. You said that adultery is not a crime, and I said it is. I showed you why I think it is, and you didn't like it, what can I do for you? If you didn't like my ideas should I change them for you, or what?
Also, checking again that thread you will maybe see which way exactly you attempted to attack me with your religionism;
I was not trying to attack you personally , I was trying to give you an example, if you felt attacked I apologize. But I don't like someone to call my believes BS, and you keep doing so!! Do you think this something good!!!
to be frank, your beliefs are a straight attack to the humanity.
what humanity?
How many Muslims did you see in a porn movie before. If that the humanity you are defending, then yes I'm attacking it.