Spirituality
10 Apr 14
10 Apr 14
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Originally posted by moonbussadly another common misconception, the Greek term apostle merely refers to one who is sent,
There was also a female apostle, Junia (mistranslated as the masculine Junias, Romans 16:7). That shoots down the Church's traditional argument why there should be no women priests.
The Greek word apostolos is derived from the common verb apostello, meaning simply “send forth (or off).” (Mt 10:5; Mr 11:3) Its basic sense is clearly illustrated in Jesus’ statement: “A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth [apostolos] greater than the one that sent him.”
There is a different term in scripture for those who are appointed elders in the congregation which is 'presbyterou'
10 Apr 14
Originally posted by sonhouseAgain this proves nothing, simply because it is not a forgery does not mean that its contents are true. Muslims rather interestingly use a similar argument in that because the Koran has never been altered (itself unverifiable) it must have some kind of legitimacy???
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.html
10 Apr 14
All books written before the invention of the printing press had to be copied by hand, over and over. For large books, none of the 'copies' will be exactly alike. I don't know how any of the devotees of these books can call them 'inerrant' - when the original intent of the author may have been completely lost or changed in places, and bits added in 'unofficially' by the copyists because they thought they could enhance the stories, or clarify the theology.
10 Apr 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGoogle "apostle Junia". You'll get nearly 6,000 hits. What more proof do you need?
sadly another common misconception, the Greek term apostle merely refers to one who is sent,
The Greek word apostolos is derived from the common verb apostello, meaning simply “send forth (or off).” (Mt 10:5; Mr 11:3) Its basic sense is clearly illustrated in Jesus’ statement: “A slave is not greater than his master, nor is one that is sent forth ...[text shortened]... term in scripture for those who are appointed elders in the congregation which is 'presbyterou'
10 Apr 14
Originally posted by sonhouseOf course he was. The Bible says so :
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/04/10/new-tests-show-evidence-forgery-gospel-jesus-wife/IusII8b4eI86HgDTKipLhN/story.html
Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.
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10 Apr 14
Originally posted by Rajk999How come when you answer someone from the Scriptures it is Okay. But when I do so it is trying to "score brownie points" and defending God unnecessarily ?
Of course he was. The Bible says so :
Rev 21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, [b]I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. [/b]
You're a blooming hypocrite little fella.
10 Apr 14
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Originally posted by moonbusThere is no 'traditional argument' that there should be no women priests, unless by Church (big C) you mean the Roman Catholic Church.
There was also a female apostle, Junia (mistranslated as the masculine Junias, Romans 16:7). That shoots down the Church's traditional argument why there should be no women priests.
My church has women priests, including my local congregation. I've spoken with her at length, we've even gone shopping for shoes together. I've treated her to lunch many times.
There is zero reason why there should not be women priests, but there's plenty of excuses.
10 Apr 14
Originally posted by SwissGambitGive the scribes some credit. They are charged with exacting reproduction. They were as interested in quality and took their jobs as seriously as any other workman.
All books written before the invention of the printing press had to be copied by hand, over and over. For large books, none of the 'copies' will be exactly alike. I don't know how any of the devotees of these books can call them 'inerrant' - when the original intent of the author may have been completely lost or changed in places, and bits added in 'unof ...[text shortened]... y' by the copyists because they thought they could enhance the stories, or clarify the theology.