Originally posted by FMFPlease answer the question FMF, how can two similar accusations can be construed as someone making a claim to behave like someone else. Really I want to know how you did it?
Are you comparing your hoped-for outcome from your "cherry picking" with the outcome of Paul's "seed picking"?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, you chose to compare your "cherry picking" to Pauls' "seed picking". Is your "cherry picking" behaviour the same as ~ or different from ~ Paul's "seed picking" behaviour? What comparison are you trying to make?
Please answer the question FMF, how can two similar accusations can be construed as someone making a claim to behave like someone else.
Originally posted by FMFbut I have not compared myself to anyone FMF and despite being asked you have provided no evidence that I have compared myself to anyone, all I have in fact done is mention that there were two similar accusations, so we shall ask you again, how do you get from, here are two similar accusations to you are comparing yourself to someone else, third time asking.
Well, you chose to compare your "cherry picking" to Pauls' "seed picking". Is your "cherry picking" behaviour the same as ~ or different from ~ Paul's "seed picking" behaviour? What comparison are you trying to make?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo are you comparing yourself to Paul ~ in terms of yours and his "picking" behaviour and what you were both accused of ~ or not?
but I have not compared myself to anyone FMF and despite being asked you have provided no evidence that I have compared myself to anyone, all I have in fact done is mention that there were two similar accusations, so we shall ask you again, how do you get from, here are two similar accusation to you are comparing yourself to someone else, third time asking.
Originally posted by FMFI really wonder why you are unable to divorce an individual from that which surrounds them, interesting phenomena, I wonder if it has a name? on yeah, trollers gonna troll!
Well, you chose to compare your "cherry picking" to Pauls' "seed picking". Is your "cherry picking" behaviour the same as ~ or different from ~ Paul's "seed picking" behaviour? What comparison are you trying to make?
Originally posted by robbie carrobieAre you comparing yourself to Paul in so far as you claim you were both criticized in similar ways for similar behaviour?
I really wonder why you are unable to divorce an individual from that which surrounds them, interesting phenomena, I wonder if it has a name? on yeah, trollers gonna troll!
Originally posted by FMFsorry FMF when you simply start to fabricate falsehoods like I have claimed that my behaviour is similar to Pauls and that I have compared my cherry picking to Pauls seed picking then you lose all credibility and interest, have a pleasant evening.
So are you comparing yourself to Paul ~ in terms of yours and his "picking" behaviour and what you were both accused of ~ or not?
Robbie: "Even if we allow a mistranslation it does not prove that she was a priest for an apostle, from the Greek 'apostolos', literally means a sent one. ... It should be noted that the early church did not ordain women [not?] because of their name, but because of factors laid out elsewhere in scripture. In fact there was no such thing as a clergy laity distinction originally."
Splendid: concise, coherent, substantive, deserving of a well-considered answer. I shall provide one in due course, but not tonight (Saturday night--got better things to do). On the spur of the moment I can only reply that not one of Jesus' intimate entourage (includiung Peter, James, Judas, etc.) would have held the title of priest or apostle (in any language). More to follow.
Originally posted by moonbusThankyou your magnanimity is well noted and may it serve as an example to our friends! Especially those who find it difficult if not impossible to divorce the persona from the argument itself.
Robbie: "Even if we allow a mistranslation it does not prove that she was a priest for an apostle, from the Greek 'apostolos', literally means a sent one. ... It should be noted that the early church did not ordain women [not?] because of their name, but because of factors laid out elsewhere in scripture. In fact there was no such thing as a clergy laity dis ...[text shortened]... , Judas, etc.) would have held the title of priest or apostle (in any language). More to follow.
Originally posted by RJHindsIs not lust considered a sin?
Do you consider a man getting married and having sex with his wife sinful?
Is that what you mean by your statement here? - There was no reason for Jesus to be born of a virgin if He was only going to turn around and ruin it by getting married.
If not, what is the meaning?