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"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneOur focus is to be on God, not the things of this world. If our focus is on this world instead of God, we run the risk of losing the gift of redemption and eternal life. I think that is what Jesus meant when he said that passage.
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI think it is a mistake to excerpt a single verse of Scripture out of context and ask people to comment
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIf thou lovest Me, turn away from thyself; and if thou seekest My pleasure, regard not thine own; that thou mayest die in Me and I may eternally live in thee.
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by Ruppster1At what point is our focus no longer on God? Do you see a clear dividing line?
Our focus is to be on God, not the things of this world. If our focus is on this world instead of God, we run the risk of losing the gift of redemption and eternal life. I think that is what Jesus meant when he said that passage.
Originally posted by NemesioIs it about being willing to 'lose one's life for a righteous cause' or about righteous living?
I think it is a mistake to excerpt a single verse of Scripture out of context and ask people to comment
on 'it.'
This verse is preceded and extensively followed by 'predictions' of Jesus' Passion, and it immediately
follows after the 'grain of wheat' aphorism -- that is, one of sacrifice of one for the good of the many.
So, it is about being sufficie writing is why many scholars consider this Gospel to
be 'proto-Gnostic.'
Nemesio
Originally posted by VarqaSeems like Baha'u'llah might have understood a thing or two 🙂
If thou lovest Me, turn away from thyself; and if thou seekest My pleasure, regard not thine own; that thou mayest die in Me and I may eternally live in thee.
(Baha'u'llah, The Arabic Hidden Words)
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneAs with most cryptic proto-Gnostic references in John, Jesus was secretly revealing his affinity with Eastern Philosophies and the necessity of those who wish to be saved to abandon their worldly shells and ascend to a higher plane of existence.
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI think it akin to Pual's teaching in Galations 6:8. "For he that sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he that sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap life everlasing."
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIn a nut shell it means that it is absolutely in one's best self interest to follow Jesus Christ. That's the short version.
"He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal."
What do you think Jesus meant by this?
Originally posted by blakbuzzrdI saw Matthew 24:9. Now let's hear it from someone who underwent these kinds of persecutions and killing and see what he has to say - Paul:
That's not what Jesus said. He said that if you followed him you'd get your ass kicked repeatedly, and maybe even fatally.
See, for example, Matthew 24:9.