FMF: Didn't Jesus, in fact, itemize and describe what those required good works were?Is that a no, then. I asked you a question. Jesus didn't explain what 'good works' his followers had to perform? Yes or no.? I'm sensing you are saying 'no'. Correct?
Originally posted by @romans1009
Can you cite the verses?
Originally posted by @romans1009Seems FMF understands you just fine. What you don't seem to understand is that your position is incoherent. Read the last post on the previous page.
No, you’re not understanding me correctly, but I can’t explain it any clearer than I already have.
Originally posted by @romans1009[1] There don't need to be 'good works' for "salvation".
No, you’re not understanding me correctly, but I can’t explain it any clearer than I already have.
[2] There is no "salvation" without 'good works'.
Which is your belief? [1] or [2] ?
Originally posted by @romans1009Will you be "saved"?
There are many one hour on Sunday Christians who aren’t saved. I agree with that. Jesus Christ made clear that relatively few people would actually be saved (if my interpretation of the following verses is correct.)
Originally posted by @thinkofoneYou don’t seem to understand it either.
[b]Works are not the cause of salvation; works are the evidence of salvation. Faith in Christ always results in good works. The person who claims to be a Christian but lives in willful disobedience to Christ has a false or dead faith and is not saved.“
This is too rich. You've painted yourself into a corner, though it seems you are oblivious to th ...[text shortened]... ow many good works are needed? What’s the value of one type of good work vs. another? [/quote][/b]
Salvation is by faith alone.
Good works are a sign or evidence or outward manifestation of someone who is saved but not a requirement for salvation.
Once again, if a man professed faith in Christ and died two seconds later of a heart attack or car accident or whatever, he would still be saved, even though he did not have the opportunity to do any good works.
Just like the thief on the cross next to Christ was saved by faith alone.
Originally posted by @romans1009So then good works are REQUIRED
There are many one hour on Sunday Christians who aren’t saved. I agree with that. Jesus Christ made clear that relatively few people would actually be saved (if my interpretation of the following verses is correct.)
“Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in t ...[text shortened]... d narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.“
(Matthew 7:13-14)
Originally posted by @fmfOne
[1] There don't need to be 'good works' for "salvation".
[2] There is no "salvation" without 'good works'.
Which is your belief? [1] or [2] ?
Originally posted by @romans1009So without these 'good works' you keep mentioning there will be no "salvation"?
Good works are a sign or evidence or outward manifestation of someone who is saved but not a requirement for salvation.
Originally posted by @romans1009Saved does not mean one is guaranteed eternal life. You agree or disagree?
Yes, I’m saved.
[1] There don't need to be 'good works' for "salvation".So you believe that there can be "salvation" even without there being any 'good works', right?
Originally posted by @romans1009
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Originally posted by @fmfYes, as I have said several times, someone who accepted Christ and died shortly afterward (such as the thief on the cross) would be saved even though no good works were performed
So you believe that there can be "salvation" even without there being any 'good works', right?
FMF: Will you be "saved"?Are you able to describe some of the 'good works' you do that are an outward manifestation your belief that you are "saved" - in a straightforward non-prideful way?
Originally posted by @romans1009
Yes, I’m saved.