Originally posted by @sonship to Ghost of a DukeSo, hang on then. Were your four subsequent posts, addressed to what Ghost of a Duke had said, examples of you getting out the way ...or were they the Lord - somehow speaking through you - showing Ghost of a Duke what God would have Ghost of a Duke see?
You think so? Well, with the way you're examining the Scriptures maybe I should get out the way and let the Lord show you what He would you to see.
ToO
John 3
“Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin...If you [abide] in My word, then you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free...The slave does not remain in the house forever; the son does remain forever."
ToO meant John 8.
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Building the house of God is going to be a process.
God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God.
In His mighty prayer in John 17 we can see that men are brought into this house of His Father to be
perfected - meaning a dynamic PROCESS into one.
"And the glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, even as We are one.
I in them, and You in Me, that they may be PERFECTED into one, that the world may know that You have sent Me and have loved them even as You have loved Me." (John 17:22,23)
Thus in John 14 He speaks of many abodes in the Father's house. But in His mighty prayer in John 17 He petitions that Father that they may be perfected into this consummate glorious expression.
He will accomplish it.
It cannot be stopped.
Originally posted by @sonship"God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God."
Building the house of God is going to be a process.
God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God.
In His mighty prayer in [b]John 17 we can see that men are brought into this house of His Father to be
perfected - meaning a dynamic PROCESS into one.
[quote] "And t ...[text shortened]... [/i] into this consummate glorious expression.
He will accomplish it.
It cannot be stopped.
That simply isn't the message provided by the bible, merely your overworked interpretation. (And thank you kindly for getting out of the way and allowing the Lord to make the meaning of the texts known to me. Sorry it didn't go your way).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeMaybe he can help many by just stepping aside, shutting up and getting out of the way. He and his doctrine is a hindrance. Christ said something about a millstone ... etc etc.
"God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God."
That simply isn't the message provided by the bible, merely your overworked interpretation. (And thank you kindly for getting out of the way and allowing the Lord to make the meaning of the texts known to me. Sorry it didn't go your way).
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukesonship:
"God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God."
Ghost:
That simply isn't the message provided by the bible, merely your overworked interpretation. (And thank you kindly for getting out of the way and allowing the Lord to make the meaning of the texts known to me. Sorry it didn't go your way).
You can save your miserable "sympathy" GhostofaDuke.
Store it up for yourself perchance you don't repent and you join God's enemies eternally in unconditional defeat and in being crushed in divine vanquishing.
It is going His way:
" ... I WILL BUILD My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it." (See Matt. 16:18b)
Ghost believes that the gates of hell will prevail.
I've witnessed that the gates of hell will not.
God does not need a world wide revival of Christiandom.
As in so many times through history, a remnant of those who overcome the surrounding degradation He reserves to accomplish His prophetic promises.
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Originally posted by @sonship'Store it up for yourself perchance you don't repent and you join God's enemies eternally in unconditional defeat and in being crushed in divine vanquishing.'
[b] sonship:"God has a long time to complete the process of building the living temple from transformed sons of God."
Ghost:
[quote]
That simply isn't the message provided by the bible, merely your overworked interpretation. (And thank you kindly for getting out of the way and allowing the Lord to make the meaning of th ...[text shortened]... those who overcome the surrounding degradation He reserves to accomplish His prophetic promises.[/b]
Ah, we reached the point of divine threat and your personal satisfaction that your forum foes will be punished for their dissatisfaction with your ministry.
"Ghost believes that the gates of hell will prevail."
Ghost is an atheist who doesn't believe in hell. (With or without gates).
Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeGenetic fallacy.
'Store it up for yourself perchance you don't repent and you join God's enemies eternally in unconditional defeat and in being crushed in divine vanquishing.'
Ah, we reached the point of divine threat and your personal satisfaction that your forum foes will be punished for their dissatisfaction with your ministry.
"Ghost believes that the ...[text shortened]... hell will prevail."
Ghost is an atheist who doesn't believe in hell. (With or without gates).
The truth or falsity of the matter does not depend on the motive of the one teaching it.
Folks perhaps the most important prophecy in the bible is that Christ promised that He would build His church.
Gates of Hades I think just has to do with death and all the things related to death and dying - spiritual, actual and otherwise.
He will not fail His word to build His church.
Emphases on "HIS ... church"
The gates of Hades may indeed prevail against degraded Christianity.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeTime will tell.
.Agreed. Your product is false however you peddle it.
Indeed, Two thousand years and the church has not been destroyed.
Persecution from without, corruption from within - she is not destroyed.
Nero couldn't put her away.
Constantine couldn't put her away.
Marx couldn't put her away.
Darwin couldn't put her away.
Freud couldn't put her away.
Mao failed,
Hitchens, Harris, Dennit, and Dawkins are flunking at destroying the Christian church.
She will be universal and triumphant until the second coming of Christ. Now I want to be on the winning side. I don't want to be standing with the losers.
Originally posted by @sonshipChrist church are those who follow Christ's commandments.
Folks perhaps the most important prophecy in the bible is that Christ promised that He would build His church.
Gates of Hades I think just has to do with death and all the things related to death and dying - spiritual, actual and otherwise.
He will not fail His word to build His church.
Emphases on [b]"HIS ... church"
The gates of Hades may indeed prevail against degraded Christianity.[/b]
These are the brothers and sisters of Christ.
Christs church are not made up of those who profess their faith with their mouth.
Originally posted by @sonshipApparently none of those people know what Christ church was.
Time will tell.
Indeed, Two thousand years and the church has not been destroyed.
Persecution from [b]without, corruption from within - she is not destroyed.
Nero couldn't put her away.
Constantine couldn't put her away.
Marx couldn't put her away.
Darwin couldn't put her away.
Freud couldn't put her away.
Mao failed,
Hitchens, Ha ...[text shortened]... g of Christ. Now I want to be on the winning side. I don't want to be standing with the losers.[/b]
There were foolishly persecuting Christians.