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John 14:5,6

John 14:5,6

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
I have never "accused [you] of being Becker" be it "falsely" or otherwise.

Your accusation is a complete and utter fabrication.

You live in a complete and utter fantasy world - as your posts on this thread have and continue to demonstrate. You haven't a clue as to what constitutes "debating substance".

You keep allowing your pride to get the better of you.
You’re rapidly becoming a broken record. At least try to come up with new insults so you’re not such a bore 🙂


Originally posted by @romans1009
You know what they say word for word?
What case have you made? If you’d post the verses you are referencing instead of your summary/interpretation of them, your case might be persuasive (or could be corrected.)
I am referring to the story of the people crucified beside Jesus as relayed by three of the Gospels. Those verses. Very few words in fact.

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Originally posted by @romans1009
You’re rapidly becoming a broken record. At least try to come up with new insults so you’re not such a bore 🙂
Seriously? Instead of apologizing for making a false accusation about me, that's what you have to say?

And after having posted this to rajk999?

This is the only account I have. I’m not Becker, and it seems you’re bearing false witness against me, which is one of the “no no’s” in the Ten Commandments

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/spirituality/the-burden-we-carry.175598/page-8#post_3833600


You're a real piece of work.

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Originally posted by @fmf
I am referring to the story of the people crucified beside Jesus as relayed by three of the Gospels. Those verses. Very few words in fact.
How does the account in the Gospel of Luke align with what you claimed?

“And there were also two other, malefactors, led with him to be put to death.

And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.

And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided him, saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the chosen of God.

And the soldiers also mocked him, coming to him, and offering him vinegar,

And saying, If thou be the king of the Jews, save thyself.

And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, This Is The King Of The Jews.

And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us.

But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?

And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.“

(Luke 23:32-43)

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How is it that Romans1009 so often accuses people of the very things he's doing?

Anyone have any thoughts on this?


Originally posted by @romans1009
How does the account in the Gospel of Luke align with what you claimed?
In the way that I said earlier on this thread. One Gospel doesn't even bother to mention this supposedly theologically pivotal moment; two Gospels relay a story of people mocking Jesus; one Gospel gives an example of it.


Originally posted by @thinkofone
How is it that Romans1009 so often accuses people of the very things he's doing?

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I think he is involved in an exercise [probably a temporary one, because logging out and logging in repeatedly is a bother] that one might call - if one were to put the most charitable spin on it - highly ironic and mischievous. More candidly, one might just say he is making deliberately provocative posts with the aim of upsetting people or eliciting responses with varying degrees of anger or exasperation from them.


Originally posted by @fmf
I think he is involved in an exercise [probably a temporary one, because logging out and logging in repeatedly is a bother] that one might call - if one were to put the most charitable spin on it - highly ironic and mischievous. More candidly, one might just say he is making deliberately provocative posts with the aim of upsetting people or eliciting responses with varying degrees of anger or exasperation from them.
Isn't there another poster who does the same?

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
Isn't there another poster who does the same?
Really not worth responding to posts that are not on substance, but to your earlier point, I’m not at all sure you did not accuse me of being Becker. At the time I thought you did, but before I apologized for saying you did, I would first want to verify what you said is accurate, which I have not had time to do


Originally posted by @thinkofone
Isn't there another poster who does the same?
So it would seem.

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Originally posted by @fmf
In the way that I said earlier on this thread. One Gospel doesn't even bother to mention this supposedly theologically pivotal moment; two Gospels relay a story of people mocking Jesus; one Gospel gives an example of it.
Here’s the relevant excerpt of a post that you wrote a few pages earlier:

“Three Gospels don't support this key piece of your theology. And the fourth Gospel only supports it if you project things onto the incident that your ideology compels you to, and which are not supported by the other three Gospels.”

So explain how the verses I quoted from Luke supports my point of view only if I “project things onto the incident that [my] ideology compels me to.”


Originally posted by @romans1009
So explain how the verses I quoted from Luke supports my point of view only if I “project things onto the incident that [my] ideology compels me to.”
I don't feel the need to.

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Originally posted by @thinkofone
Isn't there another poster who does the same?
And here you are implying I’m another poster on here lol. You just can’t help yourself, but I appreciate your saving me the trouble and time of proving you wrong. Not that I was likely to bother, but it’s still nice to have it resolved.
No apology, amigo!

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Originally posted by @fmf
I don't feel the need to.
LOL

You’re busted.

Checkmate.

gg

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Originally posted by @romans1009
LOL

You’re busted.

Checkmate.

gg
I don't need you to accept my deduction or my perspective which is based on what the Gospels say nor do I need you to concur with my conclusions about the theology that Christians base on it. I have explained what the story of the thief appears to be about, to my way of thinking. I am fine with you having a different perspective.

Psychologically speaking you have much more invested in your certainty that you are right than what I have invested in the veracity of my conjecture about the same incident. Besides, I have a strong suspicion that you and I discussed this already in August 2016.