Originally posted by @rajk999GoD asks a question and he is brushed off.
Using page 1 as an example. You post 12 times.
GoD asks a question and he is brushed off.
Dive raises another point and the same thing happens
How is that a discussion or debate?
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Sometimes I reply without pushing the "Reply" activator.
I reserve the right to sometimes reply without indicating that I am specifically replying to someone. It is "general discussion".
Long replies are broken up into separate posts. That is why some of my discussion multiplies into a FEW posts.
Now I will go back to look at GD's comment in the style you request. But I don't HAVE to do this for you. I don't expect to ever satisfy what YOU want from me.
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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-dukeI believe that I replied directly to the concept of "secondary" already, FMF.
"Do not let your heart be troubled; believe into God, believe also into Me." (v.1)
'Belief in the man Jesus Christ is put on par with believing in God Himself because of the incarnation...'
I'm not convinced that is the case. Sounds more like Jesus is 'additional' (secondary) to God. Of primary importance is 'belief in God.' We are instructed to 'also' believe in Jesus, which doesn't seem to put him on par with God as you claim.
Originally posted by @sonshipResponsive discussion.
You are going to find that my replies ( if I have one ) will be fiercely focused on the topic.
You might well take [b]"believe also into Me" as a conduit leading to God His Father. He does say He is the way.
I don't know about the sense of "secondary" based on too much of the rest of the same Gospel.
The Word with God WAS God (John 1:1) ...[text shortened]... e who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him." (John 5:23b) [/quote][/b]
Originally posted by @sonshipResponsive Discussion.
How many times in the past have you seen me refer to as many as 12 to 15 OTHER English translations of the Bible?
I have often used BibleHub to show alternative renderings of passages. If I was stuck on the Recovery Version I would have never volunteered so often to allow people to compare.
I think you're ringing a false alarm.
[b] John 14:1
...[text shortened]... New Testament [/b]
"Let not your hearts be troubled. Trust in God: trust in me also.
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-Removed-Are you even bothering to read what anyone is saying? How on earth can divegeester's "indeed" be described as "trolling"?
He was agreeing with this by Ghost of a Duke:
"It does make sense that any divine message in the bible would be simple and straightforward to understand.
It's like making good pastry. The more you overwork it the less palatable it becomes."
To pretend that you are discussing something, you surely have to read what the conversation is!
Originally posted by @rajk999Born again is a term used by the Scripture.
More labels, classifications and terms used by men.
I have no interest in that.
There are two kinds of people in this world according to Christ
Those who will enter the Kingdom of God
Those who will not.
Your preaching discourages people from following Christ.
Rather it encourages more people to follow the latter group.
I don't know what you mean by terms used by men.
Triune God is a term used by the ancient brothers in Christ who rejected Arianism and its present day renewal in such groups as The Way International or The Jehovahs Witnesses, groups who do not teach that Jesus is God.
That you don't care is your loss, not mine.
Originally posted by @sonshipActually, what I will say is, if you want to preach, and post 12 times in a row and the like, why not start a blog? And then use this facility for non-preaching interaction. It's just a suggestion.
Am I not debating?
Am I not having also general discussion?
You'll say - "you're preaching".
Originally posted by @sonshipThe risen and living Christ enters a whole lot of people.What is it about Jesus's commandment to love thy neighbour did you not understand ?
I understood this. And when I realized that this requires another life, a super life, a fineness and goodness that I do not have in myself - THEN I learned to appreciate His other words like in John 15 -
Apart from Him we can do .... [i]NOTHING ...[text shortened]... ime. You need to begin to learn to live by abiding in the available risen and living Son of God.
All those who practice good works and righteousness have this risen and living Christ in them already.
These people are way past your blabbermouth type.
Originally posted by @sonshipThe light of Christ is in every man that enters the world.
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Why is hard to trust Christ when he said [many times], that all those who practice love for ones neighbour will enter the Kingdom of God.
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No wonder that you reject being born anew, being born again, being born from above. You reject being regenerated.
What Jesus commands requires an ...[text shortened]... xample of how discussion remains useless to you. Perhaps some reading along might get some help.[/b]