John 20:28-29 King James Version (KJV)
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God? 29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
When Thomas said my God, who is he referring to? Seems to me that if he was addressing Jesus improperly that he would have quickly been corrected.
Thomas was addfressing two individuals, Jesus and God.
He gave credit to God for providing Jesus as a savoir for himself and all mankind.
He could not mean that Jesus was God because:
(John 1:18) No man has seen God at any time;
If Thomas meant Jesus was God, he was in effect saying the Apostle John lied!
The Apostle John saw Jesus and did not believe he was God.
In John 1:1 he was talking about the "divine qualities" Jesus was endowed with.
The same Greek word "theos" is used for Jesus at John 1:1 and
for Satan at 2Co 4:4.
Check it out in a Greek Interlinear Bible.
Originally posted by roigamClearly a stretch, don'the think so.
Thomas said, "my Lord.....and.....my God......"
clearly two individuals and two different positions, Lord (see James 2:1) and God, our Creator and provider of our savoir and Lord Jesus. See Isa. 43:11.
Enough for now or I will wind up quoting the whole Bible to you.
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Originally posted by roigamIf my sister was also my friend and I described her as 'my sister and my friend' would that make her two individuals, and more importantly would I have to buy her 2 Christmas presents?
Thomas said, "my Lord.....and.....my God......"
clearly two individuals and two different positions, Lord (see James 2:1) and God, our Creator and provider of our savoir and Lord Jesus. See Isa. 43:11.
Enough for now or I will wind up quoting the whole Bible to you.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeAmazing reply, question is will it be understood?
If my sister was also my friend and I described her as 'my sister and my friend' would that make her two individuals, and more importantly would I have to buy her 2 Christmas presents?
Originally posted by leunammiWhat is "amazing" is that you don't see it for the loaded question that it is.
Amazing reply, question is will it be understood?
Is the following just as "amazing"?:
If my sister was with my friend and I described them as 'my sister and my friend' would that make them one individual, and more importantly would I only have to buy them 1 Christmas present?
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe difference is your sister and your friend are two, whereas Jesus is one and the person whom Thomas was addressing.
What is "amazing" is that you don't see it for the loaded question that it is.
Is the following just as "amazing"?:
If my sister was with my friend and I described them as 'my sister and my friend' would that make them one individual, and more importantly would I only have to buy them 1 Christmas present?
It is hardly an apples to apples comparison, wouldn't you agree?
To answer your question about buying presents for your sister and your friend, I would say buy them each one unless you want to be that guy.
Originally posted by leunammiWell, it did occur to me that the concept of the fallacy of a loaded question would be over your head, but I figured it might be worth a try.
The difference is your sister and your friend are [b]two, whereas Jesus is one and the person whom Thomas was addressing.
It is hardly an apples to apples comparison, wouldn't you agree?
To answer your question about buying presents for your sister and your friend, I would say buy them each one unless you want to be that guy.[/b]
YOU are "amazing".