Originally posted by galveston75This doesn't seem like a comment on The Guardian article either. Are you absolutely determined not to make one?
It's you and your uneducated comments that make it personal. The same ole dive dude has not yet grown up and learned to keep your mouth shut on most subjects that you don't have a clue of the realities of it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLike the recent report of thousand of elderly folks sexually abused in nursing homes or the Catholic priesthood abusing children for hundreds of years or the police in France doing 'accidental rape' on men and women. All abusers should have their dicks cut off and fed to dogs. JW's and everyone else.
Another divegeester witness hate thread, gee how predictable. I wonder why he never mentions any other organisation, religious bigotry probably, oh well. Neeeeeext.
-Removed-Let me make these points you. As I said the info you post should rightly be done. It should be discussed, and followed to see where it goes. Do you understand that?
Now for the two problems that you fail to see.
I know what 's behind your posting of this. It is not with sympathy for the victims, as I'm not aware of you ever one time saying anything that would make us feel that you actually feel for them. You know what sympathy is I hope. If you do indeed have feelings for them, you have never shown it by words to us here. I feel you can't but that's me.
The second is your well know hatred of the Witnesses.
So between these two glaring faults, yes I take it very personal and still I don't know why I waist my energy talking to you.....
Originally posted by sonhouseIf anyone is guilty by the law of their land no matter their religion, they must be ready to answer to the laws of that country. But even more then that, God is watching and the guilty ones will eventually answer to him also according to his laws.....
Like the recent report of thousand of elderly folks sexually abused in nursing homes or the Catholic priesthood abusing children for hundreds of years or the police in France doing 'accidental rape' on men and women. All abusers should have their dicks cut off and fed to dogs. JW's and everyone else.
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-Removed-We are not policemen. If a case of abuse comes to light we deal with it in terms of whether people repent of their error (that is stop practicing the sin).
If victims or parents want to report the abuse they have the right to do so.
We are not required by law in this country to report it to authorities.
I do not know what your government requires.
At any rate, becoming a JW requires (Ephesians 4:24) and should put on the new personality that was created according to God’s will in true righteousness and loyalty.
Part of the problem is that people are coming into the truth so fast that they do not change all the sinful behaviors they have at once. It takes time.
Like changing clothes. Changing behaviors is a process.
Since we don't know all the facts such as what specifically was being investigated.
Was there even a real case of abuse or were they just investigating JW s.
The article said "allegations" and something was "alleged".
In out country religions have protections (mostly based on English law).
We don't know what was happening and therefore wouldn't it be prudent to leave those things in the hands of the goverment?
We have nothing to hide.
Wouldn't it be wiser to follow the Christian principle at:
(Matthew 7:1) “Stop judging that you may not be judged;
-Removed-As I read the article, there were only allegations not accusations that they were looking into.
It seems like they were investigating the way JW s handle cases of abuse.
As I said erlier, we are not policemen and we are not required by law to report abuse.
If anyone wants to report abuse to the authorities they are free to do so.
If they do not want to report it, it is not our concern.
We are only interested in their not continuing to practice those sins.
If they do, they will be DF d.
If theyrepent and turn away from those sins, they can continue as a JW but they are restricted from having any position of responsibility in the organization.
(Luke 15:10) In the same way, I tell you, joy arises among the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”