Originally posted by @fmfOK
No one has suggested that you should insist anything of anyone or dissuade anyone from anything, so don't worry about that.
I simply asked a question of a believer who claims to know their god figure exists (and who also claims that evidence is meaningless in this matter), which was:
'Surely his (the non-believer's) use of the word "know" is no different ~ no more or less legitimate ~ than your use of the word "know"?'
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Originally posted by @apathistYet when I stated, up front and positively, that God does exist, did you have anything to say?
Do you know that God exists, divegeester? Or just keep evading. Strawmen, insults, the whole bag of tricks that let you hide.
No, you were content to sit back and let FMF get all up in my face about side issues.
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Originally posted by @fmfA theist has 'evidence' in their mind for the existence of God. Whether you agree with that evidence is neither here nor there. What 'evidence' does an atheist have for the non-existence of God?
So people who have different beliefs from you with regard to supernatural things, for which you concede evidence is meaningless, are not "equivalent" to you in some way?
And how can you insist both that evidence is meaningless with regard to your beliefs AND you have "substance" at the same time?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerThat's a question worthy of a pre-teen. Don't bother asking me again. The case is for you to make. If you have a god figure you reckon exists, and if you think you have "evidence", good for you.
A theist has 'evidence' in their mind for the existence of God. Whether you agree with that evidence is neither here nor there. What 'evidence' does an atheist have for the non-existence of God?
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Originally posted by @fmfYeah conveniently so, the atheist can sit back and insist that all other world views need to make a case to support their views, whereas they don't.
That's a question worthy of a pre-teen. Don't bother asking me again. The case is for you to make. If you have a god figure you reckon exists, and if you think you have "evidence", good for you.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerYou're entitled to huff and puff about the fact the burden of proof is yours all you want, but the case about magical supernatural beings is yours to make nevertheless.
Yeah conveniently so, the atheist can sit back and insist that all other world views need to make a case to support their views, whereas they don't.
Originally posted by @fmfAnd if you think that your position is, in any way, a default position, then good for you. You're still wrong.
That's a question worthy of a pre-teen. Don't bother asking me again. The case is for you to make. If you have a god figure you reckon exists, and if you think you have "evidence", good for you.
Originally posted by @suzianneHoly cow, girl. I miss a lot. So you can demonstrate that God exists.
Yet when I stated, up front and positively, that God does exist, did you have anything to say?
No, you were content to sit back and let FMF get all up in my face about side issues.
I bet not. Prove me wrong, all right?