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Originally posted by dj2beckerI wish...
Who's he? A friend of yours?
Originally posted by HalitoseYou know I'm talking about the Christian God and I know you're just being coy. While there may not be a scriptural reference for this simplistic saying (I haven't bothered to look) it is, no doubt, used by many fundamentalists as a ridiculous, meaningless mantra.
What I meant was: Which God are you talking about? Where does He say so?
The Christian God is not [b]only love, but also just...[/b]
Originally posted by darvlayWhile there may not be a scriptural reference for this simplistic saying (I haven't bothered to look) it is, no doubt, used by many fundamentalists as a ridiculous, meaningless mantra.
You know I'm talking about the Christian God and I know you're just being coy. While there may not be a scriptural reference for this simplistic saying (I haven't bothered to look) it is, no doubt, used by many fundamentalists as a ridiculous, meaningless mantra.
Originally posted by HalitoseGod's "Justice" is not just at all. It's sadism. The white man's burden has always been to spread the message of God to everyone but the fact remains many will die before ever even hearing the Word of God. Those people will be "Left Behind" when the time comes to suffer through the apocalypse. Is that just? Is that love? No, it's neither. It's lunacy and it's senseless.
I agree with you. God's love is ridiculous when divorced from His justice. Its a paradox in duality...
Originally posted by darvlayIs that "just by your standards?
God's "Justice" is not just at all. It's sadism. The white man's burden has always been to spread the message of God to everyone but the fact remains many will die before ever even hearing the Word of God. Those people will be "Left Behind" when the time comes to suffer through the apocalypse. Is that just? Is that love? No, it's neither. It' ...[text shortened]... hess on the internet and pushing paper so that you can send your kids to college. Shame on you.
Originally posted by HalitoseYou must be aware that there is not one monolithic view in Christianity. You should accept that fact and save yourself the time used to defend views that you really don't hold.
Is that "just by [b]your standards?
or
Is that "just" by God's standards?
I'm not inclined to say that if somebody hasn't heard of Jesus in as many words then they are confined to hell. God reveals himself to each person individually and each person is responsible for his/her own decisions; God will judge us on our decisions based ...[text shortened]... revealing himself to others. There are clear inconsistancies and incompatibilities with Christ.[/b]
Originally posted by frogstompSharing our views on spirituality is what this forum's about id'nit? I am aware that Christianity is not one monolithic view, and that's why I pointed out that "God is only love" doesn't hold water with my view of Him.
You must be aware that there is not one monolithic view in Christianity. You should accept that fact and save yourself the time used to defend views that you really don't hold.
Originally posted by Halitosewhen you gonna stand up for the message, I can sense that you know it's about salvation and not punishment.
Sharing our views on spirituality is what this forum's about id'nit? I am aware that Christianity is not one monolithic view, and that's why I pointed out that "God is only love" doesn't hold water with my view of Him.