27 May 13
Originally posted by johnnylongwoodyThere is no explanation
I repeat my previous post.
Islam is a cancer which must be surgically removed from society.
It is an evil which has no place in peaceful progressive life and
survives only because of the oppression of women and of blindness
and ignorance to everything else.
For what your imagination
can make you see and feel
Originally posted by RJHindsMy son doesn't want them to die. So why would be shout this?
I did not say anything about killing innocent people. What a distorted mind you have. I was speaking of freedom of speech. Have him shout those words and see what reaction he gets. What harm can be done to innocent people? They are just words.
The Instructor
If he were stupid enough to do this, he would be asked to leave. Just as he would if he entered your Church and started mouthing off.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderWell, I also think those that shout, "Death to America and kill the Infidels in the name of Allah" should be escorted out of America.
My son doesn't want them to die. So why would be shout this?
If he were stupid enough to do this, he would be asked to leave. Just as he would if he entered your Church and started mouthing off.
The instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsSo, you accept that Muslims in this mosque would react in pretty much the same way as you would in your church. Good.
Well, I also think those that shout, "Death to America and kill the Infidels in the name of Allah" should be excorted out of America.
The instructor
I am not sure what the point was of your intervention, but it is good that you accept that many Muslims are no more extremist and violent in their faith than you are in yours.
Now we just have to convince you that it is the overwhelming majority, and your instruction will be complete.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderNo. I don't expect them to be so nice about it. Maybe, that is really why you would not advice him to say that. But after all, if they did react a little more unfavorably, then he could just declare that he was joking.
So, you accept that Muslims in this mosque would react in pretty much the same way as you would in your church. Good.
I am not sure what the point was of your intervention, but it is good that you accept that many Muslims are no more extremist and violent in their faith than you are in yours.
Now we just have to convince you that it is the overwhelming majority, and your instruction will be complete.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsWhat would you expect them to do? I can't imagine anything else they would do other than ask him to leave. It would violate their religous beliefs to do anything more serious.
No. I don't expect them to be so nice about it. Maybe, that is really why you would not advice him to say that. But after all, if they did react a little more unfavorably, then he could just declare that he was joking.
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsYou know that verse in the bible that goes something like (I am paraphrasing here, google paraphrase if you don't know what it means) As you think in your mind so you are in real life. Do you really think you are setting such a great example for your alleged god to examine? You love being in the judges chair but what will it be like for you come this supposed judgement day? Not going to be pretty I'll bet.
Oh! Yeah!
The Instructor
Originally posted by sonhouseI think you may have been referring to the following proverb. I have included a few verses around it to provide some context.
You know that verse in the bible that goes something like (I am paraphrasing here, google paraphrase if you don't know what it means) As you think in your mind so you are in real life. Do you really think you are setting such a great example for your alleged god to examine? You love being in the judges chair but what will it be like for you come this supposed judgement day? Not going to be pretty I'll bet.
Do not overwork to be rich;
Because of your own understanding, cease!
Will you set your eyes on that which is not?
For riches certainly make themselves wings;
They fly away like an eagle toward heaven.
Do not eat the bread of a miser,
Nor desire his delicacies;
For as he thinks in his heart, so is he.
“Eat and drink!” he says to you,
But his heart is not with you.
The morsel you have eaten, you will vomit up,
And waste your pleasant words.
Do not speak in the hearing of a fool,
For he will despise the wisdom of your words.
Do not remove the ancient landmark,
Nor enter the fields of the fatherless;
For their Redeemer is mighty;
He will plead their cause against you.
Apply your heart to instruction,
And your ears to words of knowledge.
Do not withhold correction from a child,
For if you beat him with a rod, he will not die.
You shall beat him with a rod,
And deliver his soul from hell.
(Proverbs 23:4-14 NKJV)
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsNice saying from a man. This did not come from a god. You do realize Judaism, Christianity, (I call it paulism just to pisss you off๐ and Islam are all branches of the same religion, in fact being called Abrahamic religions?
I think you may have been referring to the following proverb. I have included a few verses around it to provide some context.
Do not overwork to be rich;
Because of your own understanding, cease!
Will you set your eyes on that which is not?
For riches certainly make themselves wings;
They fly away like an eagle toward heaven.
Do not eat the bread ...[text shortened]... at him with a rod,
And deliver his soul from hell.
(Proverbs 23:4-14 NKJV)
The Instructor
That means they all worship the same god.
My heart tells me a god would make a religion that is pretty much the same in all countries of the world, the number one tenant of which would be tolerance of other people and cultures. That is totally lacking in all three religions. That fact alone tells me no god would ever set up such a sick system. That fact tells me they were all just made up by men, men like David Koresh, who sincerely believed himself to be some kind of messiah. There is no such thing as messiah's. They are every one of them, just self deluded individuals with enough charisma to make people THINK they are some kind of godhead on Earth. So stories get written and more bullshyte gets written long after they are dead so that all of a sudden they turn water into wine and cure the sick and so forth. All BULLSHYTE. It is SO convenient that all that BS just HAPPENED to take place thousands of years ago and NOTHING like that is happening today. Just part of the subterfuge of religion. No real god would set up such a sick system where Christians would be able to say Kill Muslims based on bible verses or Muslims saying Kill Christians, also based on Quran verses. I will forever firmly believe a god would NEVER set up such a sick system. Again, you are part of the problem not part of the solution. You think you are just alerting people about the evils of Islam but what you are really doing is inciting to violence. And OF COURSE you wills say "I am doing no such thing" but it is EXACTLY how the leaders of Nazi Germany would say or the leaders of the KKK would say when they say, I never told people to kill all those niggers, they did that on their own. They are unable to see any connection with their words and the action of weak minded followers who will take matters in their own hands. It is 100% the fault of the leaders when their minions kill and so it is with you. And ALWAYS will be for all such rabble rousers as yourself.
Originally posted by sonhouseThe fact that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are classified as Abrahamic Religions does not mean they all worship the same God. That is silly nonsense.
Nice saying from a man. This did not come from a god. You do realize Judaism, Christianity, (I call it paulism just to pisss you off๐ and Islam are all branches of the same religion, in fact being called Abrahamic religions?
That means they all worship the same god.
My heart tells me a god would make a religion that is pretty much the same in all co ...[text shortened]... nions kill and so it is with you. And ALWAYS will be for all such rabble rousers as yourself.
Christianity represents a fuller revealing of God than from Judaism. But Islam is a distorted view of God that has turned it into worship of Satan.
Jesus warned, "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."
(Matthew 24:24 NASB)
So there is no need for us to be surprised that there are people like David Koresh in the world because we have been warned that such things would happen.
I am not a rabble rouser. I am a truth teller.
HalleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
With Love,
The Instructor
Originally posted by RJHindsYou just THINK Muslims worship a different god. The whole edifice is ludicrous because the entire thing was made up by men. There was no god needed to come up with a book of pithy sayings, men have been doing that for thousands of years before christianity and will continue thousands of years AFTER christianity. Pithy sayings do not a god make. There is no bible god and there is no bible devil, all that crap is in your mind and the minds of a few billion other people. Everyone on Earth could believe all that crap and it would not make a god.
The fact that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are classified as Abrahamic Religions does not mean they all worship the same God. That is silly nonsense.
Christianity represents a fuller revealing of God than from Judaism. But Islam is a distorted view of God that has turned it into worship of Satan.
[b]Jesus warned, "For false Christs and false prop ...[text shortened]... lleluYah !!! Praise the Lord! Glory be to God! Holy! Holy! Holy!
With Love,
The Instructor
Originally posted by sonhouseKeep telling yourself that and eventually you might believe it.
You just THINK Muslims worship a different god. The whole edifice is ludicrous because the entire thing was made up by men. There was no god needed to come up with a book of pithy sayings, men have been doing that for thousands of years before christianity and will continue thousands of years AFTER christianity. Pithy sayings do not a god make. There is no ...[text shortened]... billion other people. Everyone on Earth could believe all that crap and it would not make a god.
The Instructor