Life made in labs, would it have a soul?

Originally posted by KellyJay
There are exceptions agreed, but not always! Besides even with disease
and injury those are part of the processes that life has been over coming
from day one right? I means seriously, no concern about those two things
during the early stages of evolution why write off life now? If you have
the chemicals why die?

Show me a death that does not involve major (i.e., essential) organ failure that affects our chemistry, due to disease or injury. And we have been working on overcoming the chemical effects since
day one", consciously or not.

I am a chemist or i would say "physiological effects."

Originally posted by googlefudge
So, If we do make life and prove you wrong...

Do we disprove your religion?

If you just wait around to see if it happens then you will most likely find yourself with sohouse in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

Originally posted by JS357
I really think the OP has the concept of ensoulment backwards. If there were a god that created souls, that god could ensoul anything he or she or it wanted. It's really like the soul is given a human body to run. So the god could ensoul a human, a horse, or a self-driving Google car, if it struck his divine fancy. (I say self-driving because giving a soul a r ...[text shortened]... ve the rock do? Erode? Nope.)

Now with that settled we can get to the question of free willy.

I say self-driving because giving a soul a regular car would be about like giving it a rock to run. What could the soul have the rock do? Erode? Nope.

If a regular car was ensouled it would kill people, haven't you seen the film Christine (from a Stephen King novel)?

Originally posted by JS357
Show me a death that does not involve major (i.e., essential) organ failure that affects our chemistry, due to disease or injury. And we have been working on overcoming the chemical effects since
day one", consciously or not.

I am a chemist or i would say "physiological effects."

I get failure in our bodies, what you seem to be over looking that up till
they failed all the chemicals were present were they not? Breaking down
and death seems to be something that can occur with all the chemicals
in place as nears as I can tell, which leads me to believe there is nothing
magical about having just that all the chemicals in place. Life is more than
just chemicals.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Breaking down and death seems to be something that can occur with all the chemicals in place as nears as I can tell,

Well all that tells us is you are somewhat ignorant of biology. Death occurs when the chemicals are out of place.

Life is more than just chemicals.
No, actually, it isn't. Biologists have studied life at the cellular level in extreme detail, and know the workings of most of it and so far nothing more than chemicals have been found, and nothing to indicate that there is anything more than chemicals going on.

Your argument is like saying:
Put a car into a crusher, and it stops working! But all the car parts are still there. Therefore cars have souls!

Originally posted by KellyJay
I get failure in our bodies, what you seem to be over looking that up till
they failed all the chemicals were present were they not? Breaking down
and death seems to be something that can occur with all the chemicals
in place as nears as I can tell, which leads me to believe there is nothing
magical about having just that all the chemicals in place. Life is more than
just chemicals.

i challenge you to describe on scenario in which a person dies with their chemical make-up in perfect condition.

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i challenge you to describe on scenario in which a person dies with their chemical make-up in perfect condition.

Most people that are living do not have their chemical makeup in perfect condition. So what do you really mean? 😏

Originally posted by RJHinds
If you just wait around to see if it happens then you will most likely find yourself with sohouse in the Lake of Fire and Brimstone.

No because that is an ignorent and stupid fairy tail told to the gullable...

Now, back to my question, to which you have given no answer.

If we create synthetic life then does that disprove your religion?

Originally posted by googlefudge
No because that is an ignorent and stupid fairy tail told to the gullable...

Now, back to my question, to which you have given no answer.

If we create synthetic life then does that disprove your religion?

No. I guess it would only confirm that God created man in His own image with the ability to create.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No. I guess it would only confirm that God created man in His own image with the ability to create.

I knew you would figure a way to rationalize it all away. Getting prepared.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No. I guess it would only confirm that God created man in His own image with the ability to create.

If it won't disprove your religion then it is not a prediction made by your religion.

Thus your religion has nothing to say on the subject.

Originally posted by RJHinds
No. I guess it would only confirm that God created man in His own image with the ability to create.

Do you think there is a limit to man's creative abilities given enough time?

Originally posted by stellspalfie
i challenge you to describe on scenario in which a person dies with their chemical make-up in perfect condition.

My grandfather died in his sleep, all of his chemical make up was intact.
Perfect condition suggest you already know that life is more than chemicals.

Originally posted by KellyJay
... all of his chemical make up was intact.

No, it wasn't. Surely you know enough biology to know that much?

Originally posted by KellyJay
My grandfather died in his sleep, all of his chemical make up was intact.
Perfect condition suggest you already know that life is more than chemicals.

what was the reason for his death? did he have any medical conditions? did your grandfather have the body of a 20 year old athlete?